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I'm tempted by a new MPV for under €30,000.

Hi guys,

I am looking to replace my Renault Scenic automatic (06). I do about 10,000 miles a year. I know I am probably going to get a very low trade in for a car this age... Do I buy a new car and get a decent €3,000 or €3,500 trade in allowance? (If it's new it needs to be under €30,000) Or do I buy a second hand car?

Ideally I would like a seven-seater (I wouldn't rule out a five-seater just yet). If it is used I do not want anything older than 2013. the most important factor is reliability, as this next car needs to do me at least 10 years, and be very economical (in terms of fuel consumption and tax). It needs to be a manual car, too - I have an automatic at the moment, but I want to revert back to a manual transmission.

I am looking at the Ford Grand C-Max or the Toyota Verso. Which of these is more reliable? Should I be looking at anything else (not French ideally; I will not buy any other French car I think - I have owned three and had nothing but trouble)? I am also tempted to get a hybrid but for a people carrier does it even exist and what type of cost?

Thanks

Lurdes Power (Greater Dublin Area)

Jul 2016 Filed under: choosing new car

Expert answer

Hi Lurdes,

OK, lots to deal with here. Let’s go through it piece by piece. Theoretically, you will always get better value buying second hand than buying new. 'Buy at three, sell at five' (years old) is the rule of thumb to maximise your value and minimise your exposure to depreciation. But, you’ve been burned in the past by unreliable cars (been there, I feel your pain) so I would say that buying new is actually the best thing for you this time around, especially as you want to hold on to the car for an extended period.

Of the two cars you’ve mentioned, the Toyota Verso should be the most reliable. Nothing much wrong with the Ford, but if reliability is your priority then always buy Japanese. Happily, a manual 1.6 diesel Verso seven-seater is just inside your budget, at €29,100 and there is currently a €3,000 trade-in offer on that model, which means you’ll get a lot more for your old Scenic than you would if you traded it in normally.

There is only one hybrid people carrier so far, and that’s the Toyota Prius+, but to be honest, we couldn’t recommend it. For a start, a new one will bust through your €30k budget barrier, but beyond that it’s a disappointing car – far too thirsty unless all of your mileage is done in town at low speeds. The Verso is a far more versatile car.


Should I trade my Focus in for a new car?

My 2005 Focus needs about €2k of work to pass an NCT and stay on the road. Through scrappage I am being offered €5k for the car, making a new car in the region of €17k, so the cost of changing to a comfy, stress free new car is effectively €15k, no NCT worries and no bills next year.

Is it worth trading up now while €5k is on the table? The Focus probably has another few years in it, but I can't see past the hassle of keeping it on the road. What are the potential pit falls of sticking with an older car, and what savings does a new car offer over an old car?

Paul Campbell (Dublin)

Jul 2016 Filed under: choosing new car

Expert answer

Hi Paul,

Well, you kind of have your own answer there already - it'll cost €2k to fix your Focus now, and even if it were another €2k next year and the year after, that would still work out cheaper (by far) than a finance deal or loan for the €17k cost of trading up to a new car.

That said, I totally understand where you're coming from - it's hugely tempting to have a manageable monthly payment and no worries of warranty or NCT. Certainly, that €5k trade-in is tempting, especially if the car needs work. You just need to sit down for a quiet minute and have a think as to what's more important - the raw cost, or the peace of mind.


Do we need to pay VAT on importing?

Are we liable for VAT as well as VRT if we are bringing in a 13-month old company car that has done 39,000 miles and is still being purchased by monthly payments under a lease agreement?

The sale price the company is asking is just the amount to pay off the lease. Is the company legally able to sell the car yet or does the lease have to be paid off first? Also, if a company buys a car under a lease agreement do they pay VAT? We don't want to be stuck with a car we can't import or has hidden costs like VAT. The asking price does seem very good though: £11,000, which is what made me think we will have to pay VAT too. Any feedback will be very helpful.

Thank you

Debbie

Debbie Borton (Letterkenny)

Jul 2016 Filed under: importing

Expert answer

Hi Debbie,

No, you shouldn't have to pay VAT. VAT is only payable on vehicles younger than six months and/or with less than 6,000km on the clock. Unless it's a very unusual lease that you're paying off, the vehicle's VAT will have been included in the original lease cost.

As far as the legality of the company selling it is concerned, it's up to them if they want to. The leasing company won't care one way or another as long as they they get their money. Just make sure it's a reputable company from which you're buying and make sure you carry out a history check with Cartell.ie on the car to ensure that there are no other outstanding loans or finance agreements. Make sure you get a letter in writing that the firm undertakes to pay off the lease when you buy the car and insist on having proof of that in writing too.


How much to import a commercial Touareg?

Looking at bringing in a commercial Volkswagen Touareg from the north; do you know how much I would need to pay to have it registered here?

Ray Moran (Naas)

Jul 2016 Filed under: importing

Expert answer

Hi Ray,

You'll pay 13.3 per cent of the 'Open Market Selling Price' (OMSP - the Irish used value as estimated by Revenue).  It would obviously depend on the year and condition as to what that value would be. As an example, a 2009 Touareg commercial would be worth around €13,000 to €15,000. 


Which solid car to buy for up to €7,000?

Hi Guys,

I'm living in Louth and will be driving to Dublin each day Monday to Friday. That's a journey of 160km per day. I am looking for a family car that is comfy yet professional and I guess most important bullet proof that won't cost us an arm and a leg over the next 12 months. Budget somewhere around €6,000/7,000. I know it's not big, but family come first and this car needs to be a work horse. A couple of options would be great.

Dan , Louth

Dan Duffy (Dundalk)

Jun 2016 Filed under: choosing used car

Expert answer

Hi Dan,

Right, I'm going to give you a couple of really safe options: Mazda6 or Toyota Avensis. That budget should see you into a 2008 model, and both are roomy, very reliable and pretty good (Toyota) or really good (Mazda) to drive. 


Can I import a car and pay finance in the UK?

I live in Northern Ireland. I've been offered a good deal to take a new Ford car on finance for the next 36 months. My concern is that I (hopefully) intend to move to the Republic within the next year or two. Is it possible to change residency and register my car in the Republic while still paying finance in the UK?

Iain McGoldrick (Belfast)

Jun 2016 Filed under: importing

Expert answer

Hi Iain,

It should be, but check it with your finance company first. You’ll probably need to keep your Sterling bank account active and transfer money to it from whatever Euro account you’re being paid into when you’re working in the Republic.


Looking for price for 2008 Honda Civic.

Hi, looking for a ballpark guide for a trade in value on a 2008 Honda Civic, five-door hatchback, 1.8 VTEC. The car has a full service history and 135,000km on the clock. What would I reasonably expect at the upper and lower end of the value range? There are very few of these models for sale, making a reasonable guess difficult. Appreciate any expertise you might be able to dispense before I encounter the dealers!!

Thank you

JD

Jason Doran (Dublin)

Jun 2016 Filed under: used car values

Expert answer

Hi Jason,

There’s a pretty big range in Civic prices for a car of that age, from as little as €5,000 to as much as €9,000, but I’d say splitting the difference at around €7,000 would a pretty safe bet.


Can I avoid VRT on importing my parents' car?

I was living in UK from January 2015 to December 2015. I was insured on and driving my parents' car. I now am importing that car into Ireland as they can no longer drive it. Will I have to pay VRT? I was resident in the Republic before going to UK for the year.

Marie Kearns (Ennis)

Jun 2016 Filed under: importing

Expert answer

Hi Marie,

Theoretically, as you're moving house and you've had the car taxed and insured at your previous address there should be only an administrative fee to pay. But I'm guessing it wasn't your name on the logbook while it was in the UK, which may put a spanner in the works (unless you and your dad have the same name of course...). I think your only option is to talk to someone on the Revenue help desk (and they really are very friendly and helpful) and explain your situation. There might be a loophole through which you can slip. 


How popular is the 1.4-litre TSI Passat?

Hi,

Can you tell me how many of the 1.4-litre Volkswagen Passats were registered in Ireland in 2015 and 2016?

Thanks.

Brendan Cullen (Knocklyon)

Jun 2016 Filed under: choosing used car

Expert answer

Hi Brendan,

According to the figures from the Society of the Irish Motor Industry (SIMI), 57 Passat 1.4 TSI models were sold in 2015 (53 saloons and four estates) and 42 so far this year (37 saloons and five estates). There were also two Passat GTE plugin hybrids registered so far this year, which also use the 1.4 TSI engine.


Audi A3 TDI or Toyota Auris Hybrid?

Hi,

As our family is fleeing the nest, I am hoping to buy a new or nearly new slightly smaller and economical (possibly hybrid?) car. Changing up from a 2009 Toyota Avensis 2.0-litre high-spec diesel with 98,000km on the clock. Do about 15,000km per year mostly in the city and trips to Wicklow, and odd long trip to West Cork for pleasure.

Not sure if I should go for diesel again, or hybrid. Is hybrid risky and will the residuals drop as newer technology comes onstream? Offered €6K by Audi for my Avensis (poor!) against a brand new A3 Sportback 1.6 TDI diesel (net after discounts and trade in = €25K) or €10k by Toyota against brand new 1.8 Auris Hybrid Luna (€26,225 + €575 + €180 road tax + €575 metallic paint = €16,980). Love the look of the A3 Sportback, but in my heart think Toyota is more practical for a privately run car. I am paying cash so am conscious I might have this car a while, i.e. five years.

Do you think a new car is advisable, or good demo, and also will the Audi be expensive to run?  

Thanks,

Linda DJ, Dublin

Linda Dwyer Joyce (Dundrum)

Jun 2016 Filed under: choosing new car

Expert answer

Hi Linda,

€6k is at the bottom end of 2009 Avensis trade in values and your Toyota dealer is possibly boosting your trade in a bit (€10k is definitely top end) to keep you in the family.

I think with 15,000km annual mileage you definitely don't need a diesel - you'll really struggle to make back the extra purchase cost in fuel savings and if you're not doing lots of long journeys you could run into problems with the particulate filter. The Audi wouldn't be expensive to run at all - they're reliable and frugal, but the servicing would probably be slightly pricier than for a Toyota.

As for the Auris Hybrid, I think it sounds like it might be just about right for you, especially as most of your mileage is around town and that's where it works best. You may find it hard to get the best economy out of it on that long run to West Cork, but the rest of the time it should be about right, and super-reliable too.

An ex-demo is always a good idea as you'll get it cheap with minimal mileage, but there are fewer of them around these days.

Relevant reviews on the site:

Audi A3 Sportback 1.6 TDI review

Toyota Auris Hybrid review


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