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Can I pay the old import taxes etc. pre-2021?

Hi.

If a car was already brought into this country in November/December from the UK, will the new import duties and VAT apply when re-registering the car in Ireland or will it be under the old system as it was imported prior to December 31?

Sylvie Morrison (Dublin)

Feb 2021 Filed under: importing

Expert answer

Hi Sylvie,

Unless there are extenuating circumstances, the taxes etc. are calculated when the car is presented for inspection. So, I'm afraid you're likely to have to pay the new fees. On top of that, you're supposed to inform Revenue of the car's importation within seven days and book an inspection within 30 days. Failure to do that means a fine. That fine increases the longer you wait, too, so don't delay any further. 


Can I get commercial tax?

I am thinking of buying a Ford Ranger. While I won't use it for work purposes, I keep horses and need a vehicle for towing. Can I get commercial tax on these grounds?

Gerard Kelleher (Limerick)

Feb 2021 Filed under: taxation

Expert answer

Hi Gerard,

No, it doesn't sound to me that you can. However, you can change the status of the vehicle from commercial to private. Just call your local motor tax office to do that. You'll pay tax based on the engine size, though, which can be expensive. And, perhaps more troublesome, it's not always easy for a private individual to insure what was previously registered as a commercial vehicle. Do some ringing around before you commit to it.

Read Buying a commercial vehicle for private use for more


Is a write-off still under warranty?

I bought a 2019 Citroen Dispatch Van in the UK with 6,000 miles on it. Had light frontal damage (a wing and a headlight), but was recorded as a category S. I bought the wing and headlamp off Citroen and got the vehicle repaired by an approved body shop. The radio is not working correctly (a common fault) and a sensor went in the exhaust. Citroen refuses to do it under warranty because it's category S. By law can it refuse to do this work? I will get an engineer's report if required but it won't make a difference. In fairness, the dealership is willing to do it but Citroen won't honour it.

Owen Ryan (Templemore)

Feb 2021 Filed under: warranty

Expert answer

Hi Owen,

Unfortunately, by law, Citroen can refuse to carry out work under warranty on a car that’s been written off. You’d need to get a solicitor to comb through the fine print of the original warranty agreement to make absolutely sure, but in general — across Europe and in the UK — if a car is written off by an insurer, even for something as trifling as panel damage, then the warranty on that car is automatically void. It’s because if it was to carry out warranty work, there could be legal implications further down the line if a safety issue to do with the writing-off were to be found, or worse still someone injured themselves in the vehicle because of something that should have been spotted. 


How to go about taxing a van privately?

I’ve got a 2010 Citroen Dispatch 2.0-litre van and I’m just wondering how I go about getting it taxed privately for the first time and how much it would be?

David Mc Tiernan (Roscommon )

Feb 2021 Filed under: taxation

Expert answer

Hi David,

The actual process of changing the tax status on a van from commercial to private use is relatively straightforward — you simply ring up your local motor tax office (you’ll find your nearest one here: https://www.gov.ie/en/service/1fc151-find-your-local-motor-tax-office/) and tell them what you want to do. They’ll then shift you onto the old engine capacity-based tax system (you’ll pay €710 a year for a 2.0-litre engine) and the job’s done.

Except it isn’t, quite. You will need proof of insurance first, and insurers are — for some reason — reluctant to switch policies over. It’s worth finding a good local broker to help you get the insurance sorted out first of all. 

Read Buying a commercial vehicle for private use for more info.


How to change a Range Rover Sport's status?

Hi guys,

I am looking to buy a 2013 Range Rover Sport, a 3.0-litre diesel that is currently designated as a business commercial vehicle with €333 tax. There are five seats and no VAT on the sale off the vehicle. Once purchased, I wish to tax it privately and also insure it privately as a passenger car. Can you outline this process and if it’s straightforward and possible?

Thanks

Frank

Frank Mitchel (Dublin)

Feb 2021 Filed under: commercial vehicle

Expert answer

Hi Frank,

The process of taxing it is relatively straightforward — just ring up your local motor tax office (list here: https://www.gov.ie/en/service/1fc151-find-your-local-motor-tax-office/) and ask them to switch you over. The problem is twofold — with a 3.0-litre Range Rover Sport, you’re going to be paying the second-highest rate of motor tax (€1,494 per year) because a commercial re-registered for private use is taxed on the old engine capacity-based tax system. Insurance can also be a major issue — it shouldn’t be, but it is, so get hold of a good local broker to help you navigate those waters before you take the leap. 

Read Buying a commercial vehicle for private use for more information.


Paperwork needed for NI imported car?

Buying a car purchased by a NI garage before Xmas but originally registered in UK. Do I need additional paperwork for VRT centre e.g. proof they purchased and imported cars before Brexit?

L GKelly (Dublin)

Feb 2021 Filed under: importing

Expert answer

Hi Leanne,

In theory, no. According to Revenue’s official wording on this, you don’t have to pay either import duty nor VAT on a used car coming from Northern Ireland as long as it was either previously registered to a business or an individual resident in the North, or was sold to you by a car dealer whose business is registered and addressed in the North. In theory, the invoice for the car, issued by the dealership when you bought it, should cover you but just make sure you have as much paperwork as humanly possible to back you up.


Can I buy a Citroen Ami here?

Hi there.

I have been reading about the Citroen AMI all electric vehicle and am very interested in purchasing one. Citroen Ireland tells me it has no plans to market the vehicle here. I am wondering how our department would treat this vehicle; as an electric car? Or quadricycle? Would Revenue want a cut for importing a vehicle? VAT and VRT? Purchase price is circa €6,000 in France and you can buy one online. I don't have the finances to buy a "Normal" electric vehicle where the cheapest seems to be in the €25K region. Would the Department of Transport want road tax, log book, registration fees etc?

Any pointers you might offer would be appreciated.

John Ryan. Dublin 12

John Ryan (Dublin 12)

Feb 2021 Filed under: electric cars

Expert answer

Hi John,

Citroen is currently reviewing options on potentially introducing the Ami to Ireland in the future. Initially the car was only to be produced in left-hand drive, but this is now being reconsidered due to high levels of interest in the car from the UK market. If the car was to be officially sold here it would be liable for the applicable VAT and VRT rates and would require motor tax and insurance, in the same way that the Renault Twizy does. These would also apply if you were to privately import one. 


Can I claim back VAT on a UK import?

Hi,

Can I claim VAT back on a second hand UK car? I’m not VAT-registered. I’m looking at importing a Jan 2020 electric Peugeot e-208.

Cheers

Dave Bohan (Cork)

Dave Bohan (Cork)

Feb 2021 Filed under: importing

Expert answer

Hi Dave,

I’m afraid not. If you were VAT-registered and buying a commercial vehicle strictly for business use, then yes you could, but on a private car? No way, I’m afraid. Worse, you’ll have to pay VAT in two territories thanks to Brexit, unless you're buying from Northern Ireland.

Read our Guide to Importing Cars from the UK feature for more.


Worried about insuring a Ranger privately...

Hi there,

I found your article on commercial vehicles very helpful. I am looking to buy a Ford Ranger from a family member. It’s currently taxed and insured commercially, but I plan to buy it and change the tax to private and only then can I get an insurance quote. Can you please tell me a little about the process? I feel like I’m buying a little blindly since I can’t get an insurance quote until I tax the vehicle privately. I can’t tax it privately until I buy it.

Any help would be appreciated.

John

John Wedick (Wexford )

Feb 2021 Filed under: insurance

Expert answer

Hi John,

Yes, we’ve been hearing from more than a few readers that while taxing a commercial as a private vehicle is simple enough, getting insurance is another matter entirely. As ever, our first advice for any insurance query is to find a good broker who can help you out. In this specific case, as the car is coming from a family member, might it be worth asking them to tax it as a private car? They could simply then inform their existing insurer who may not even bother to raise their premium if the transaction is to take place soon. You could then approach other insurers with a pickup that’s already registered as a private car.


VAT situation on importing from UK?!

Probably done to death but I can't see anything concrete stated as I trawl the sites. All I can see is "you may be liable for VAT," but no clarity on what conditions will change that "may" to a "will". From the latest guidance I could find on Revenue's website for a private buyer buying used car (>6,000 miles) from a UK (VAT-registered) trader that I could see (snippet below) my understanding would be that I could buy from a UK dealer (a VAT-registered one) and import paying VRT (and the NOx levy) as normal but without any VAT liability.

I can't see clear guidance on import duties, but assume that 10 per cent is valid on entry. Any expert knowledge out there that can clarify why I'm (likely) wrong?

10.1 Purchase of second-hand vehicles by a private individual from a person in another country

Where a private individual purchases a second-hand vehicle from a VAT-registered trader, including a motor dealer, in another country

Where a private individual purchases a second-hand vehicle from a motor dealer or any VAT-registered trader in another country, the price will generally include any VAT or other tax chargeable in that country. This VAT cannot be reclaimed. There is no VAT liability in Ireland. In respect of VRT, the owner of the vehicle must make a booking with an NCTS Centre within 7 days of the vehicle entering the State and registration must be completed within 30 days of the vehicle entering the State. The VRT liability can be calculated using the VRT Calculator on the Revenue website.

John Scmidt (Dublin)

Feb 2021 Filed under: importing

Expert answer

Hi John,

In theory you might be right, and we suspect that there won’t be 100 per cent clarity on this issue until there have been further negotiations between the EU and the UK, or a case is tested in court. The problem is, of course, that with the UK now being a ’third country’ post-Brexit, you could possibly claim back the VAT from the UK authorities on the car’s exit from the UK. You’d most likely have to do that after you’ve paid your VRT and VAT in Ireland, and the paperwork would doubtless be monstrous.

Might be worth a try, though.