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Help me understand import costs please!

Hi,

I am interested in importing a used 3.0-litre V6 Jaguar XF from England (2013-2014 and about £12,000). I am finding the real cost of doing so very confusing especially the VAT implications. If I have to pay the Irish VAT rate of 21% is it possible to avoid paying VAT on the car in the UK or will I be paying VAT in both countries? Also, since the XF is manufactured in the UK does this mean that it is exempt from the 10% customs duties incurred since Jan 2021? Any insight would be much appreciated.

Eoin Murray (Dublin)

Mar 2021 Filed under: importing

Expert answer

Hi Eoin,

VAT isn’t charged on second hand car sales in the UK, so while technically you will be paying a residual portion of the car’s original VAT cost, on a car that’s between seven and eight years old, it’s not going to be a particularly big proportion. You could — technically — claim it back from the UK authorities on export, but the process is byzantine and time consuming, and generally not worth the effort.

You will definitely have to pay Irish VAT, though, which will now be charged at 23 per cent as the rate has gone up since the 1st of March. Unlike VRT, which is charged according to the OMSP, the Open Market Selling Price or what Revenue thinks the value of the car would be on the Irish market, VAT is charged on the price you paid for the car, plus shipping costs.

As for the import duty, you may well get away without paying that, as the XF’s structure and engine (the V6 diesel was made by Ford in Dagenham) were built in the UK, which should push it over the minimum value necessary. You’ll have to fill out a customs declaration form first, though, which should help you figure all of that out. 


Thoughts on this Audi A1 TDI?

I'm thinking of buying a 161 Audi A1 1.6 TDI with very low mileage - only around 18,000 miles done. It has had two owners, one for nearly nine months and one for six and it looks like the rest of the time it has been at a dealer's for sale. It's clean inside and comes in at €15k. Other ads for sale have much higher mileage for similar price. It looks at one stage like it has been at a dealer for nearly three years and has currently been for sale for almost a year with the dealer (from car history report). It's due an NCT and the dealer is giving six months' warranty. Is buying a car that was idle so long a good idea and does it sound too good to be true?!

John Murphy (Clonmel)

Mar 2021 Filed under: choosing used car

Expert answer

Hi John,

We really can’t comment with any accuracy on a specific car, sight unseen. However… the charitable answer could be that the 1.6 TDI diesel is rather unfashionable, especially in a car as small as the A1 (the 1.0 TSI petrol engine was always the better seller), so it could be that the previous owners decided that diesel wasn’t for them and the dealership has since struggled to move it on.

That said, we’d tread carefully. Have you gotten an independent history check through the likes of Cartell.ie? It might also be worth getting an AA Inspection, which will go through the car with a fine toothcomb and find anything that’s wrong. In theory, buying a car that’s been idle shouldn’t present a major problem, but we always work to the rule that mechanical devices are at their best when used, and regularly serviced, rather than left to sit. 


Cost to use a Transit Connect privately?

I am currently office based for work with the requirement to visit building sites from time to time. I am considering buying a Ford Transit Connect van, 1.5-litre that is more practical than my current car for visiting sites. I would therefore need the van for work and private purposes as I cannot afford to have a seperate car for private use only. What type of tax and insurance by law do I need for this scenario (private/commercial) and what would be the approx cost of same?

Thanks

Ronan Toft (Kilcullen)

Mar 2021 Filed under: commercial vehicle

Expert answer

Hi Ronan,

You will have to tax the van as a private car if you’re going to use it for social, domestic or pleasure purposes. That’s relatively easy to do — you just need to ring up you local motor tax office and ask them to make the switch for you. Annual motor tax will cost you €413 a year for the 1.5-litre engine (taxing a commercial as a private car means you go back to the old engine capacity based system).

Insurance is the trickier aspect, and we’ve heard from a lot of readers that they struggle to find cover for commercials as private vehicles. We always advise to try and track down a good, reputable, broker and get cover sorted before you make any decisions.

Take a read of Buying a commercial vehicle for private use for more information.


What do I pay on a VAT-qualifying car?

Hello,

If I buy a VAT-qualifying car from the UK, am I correct in saying that I deduct the VRT, customs and VAT paid upon entry from the following selling price here and am then liable for Irish VAT on that figure?

E.g. SP = €20,000 - tariff €1,000 - VAT €1,230 - VRT €1,500 = €16,270 so VAT liability of €3,043?

Thanks for any clarification you can give me.

Kathryn O'Connell (Dublin 16)

Mar 2021 Filed under: importing

Expert answer

Hi Kathryn,

Not quite. You don’t deduct the VAT and VRT to find out the OMSP — Open Market Selling Price — as that’s a figure arrived at independently by Revenue. It’s on that figure, whatever it might be, that your VRT and VAT will be calculated. 


Looking at buying a 2017 BMW 330e...

Hi,

I am looking at a 2017 BMW 330e Sport. At the moment I travel 30km per day on average so expect the battery-only power to cover most of my driving outside of the weekend. Can you let me know of any issues I should be looking for with a plug-in hybrid of this year? Do you know if there are any battery life issues starting to crop up? My budget is around the €20K mark and the car is for a family of four; are there any other plug-in hybrids (saloon or SUV) I should be looking at for this budget?

Thanks, Joe

Joe Harbourne (Dublin)

Mar 2021 Filed under: hybrid

Expert answer

Hi Joe,

There aren’t any specific battery issues to look for, and the good thing about a plug-in hybrid is that you can’t fast-charge them, so there’s less likelihood of wear and tear on the battery cells from repeated rapid charges. Obviously, batteries do degrade a little over time, but you shouldn’t see more than a few percentage points wiped off the performance. Make sure you go for a fully-charged test drive first though, and if the range seems abruptly short (allowing for weather, traffic etc) then the battery might have been physically damaged at some point.

Other plug-in hybrids worth considering would be a BMW 530e, although that probably won’t squeeze into your budget, or a Volkswagen Passat GTE, which provides performance almost as good as that of the 330e, but for a much lower cost overall and it's more spacious. Don’t forget that the battery eats considerably into the 330e’s boot space, and it was never a big car inside to begin with. The updated Passat GTE (2020) was available as an estate, too...

BMW 330e review

Volkswagen Passat GTE review

Volkswagen Passat GTE Estate review

BMW 530e review


Looking for outright comfort in a car...

I am trying to identify the car that will provide the best possible ride quality for my wife who suffers from chronic pain due to multiple injuries.

So far she has found an Audi A3 and Audi A4 too hard, a Mercedes A 220 much better but with a seat that pushes her neck forward, a Volvo V40 R-Design with the best seat for her so far but too harsh a ride.

Perhaps you cannot say precisely what brand and model of car might be more suitable but the factors that overall might offer the best solution. Under consideration at the moment are a Volvo XC40 or XC60 and a Subaru Forester.

Thanks.

Seamus - Dublin 14

Seamus Connolly (Dublin 14)

Mar 2021 Filed under: comfort

Expert answer

Hi Seamus,

This is obviously a tricky decision, and we wish your wife all the best in coping with this. When it comes to ride quality, the most important factors are the stiffness, overall, of the suspension, the size of the wheels, and the sidewall depth of the tyres. Basically, smaller wheels and normal suspension is the rule of thumb if you’re trying to get a car with a soft ride quality.

SUVs are actually generally quite bad for ride quality. That sounds counter-intuitive, because of course they’re taller and have longer-travel suspension, but the problem is that the springs and dampers have to be stiffened up to prevent the higher centre of gravity from inducing too much body roll. I would therefore suggest that keeping away from SUVs would be a good bet.

That said, the Subaru Forester you’ve mentioned below does indeed have a soft ride quality, again as long as you avoid the larger alloy wheel options. Ditto the smaller Subaru XV, which is helpfully lower to the ground and can get away with slightly softer suspension rates. Citroen, of course, is famed for having pillowy-soft ride quality, and the current C5 Aircross is pretty soft and springy, and has great seats into the bargain. You should definitely look at a Toyota Camry as well (very soft, and again with great seats) and the Skoda Superb.

Avoid anything that has a sporty designation (S line, R-Line, M Sport etc) as that will almost automatically have stiffer springs and bigger wheels.

Hope that helps. Below are links to our reviews of the cars mentioned above:

Subaru Forester reviews

Citroen C5 Aircross reviews

Subaru XV reviews

Toyota Camry reviews

Skoda Superb reviews


Private tax on a 2015 Toyota Hilux?

Just wondering what price it would be to tax a 2015 3.0-litre Toyota Hilux van for private use?

Thanks in advance

Stephen Mulvey (Dunboyne)

Mar 2021 Filed under: taxation

Expert answer

Hi Stephen,

As a private car, you’ll have to tax that according to the engine capacity, so that means a €1,494 annual bill I’m afraid.

Read Buying a commercial vehicle for private use for more


Can I drive a UK car in Ireland?

Hi.

My home is in Northern Ireland. I work in South of Ireland. Can I drive a UK-registered car?

James Curry (Tyrone)

Feb 2021 Filed under: importing

Expert answer

Hi James,

Yes, you can. As long as your car is registered to your Northern Ireland address, and so is your insurance, all you need is a ‘Green Card’ from your insurer to extend the cover to the Republic. 


Costs to import a Range Rover Sport?

If I bring in a 2010 Range Rover Sport HSE worth £10,000, what will it cost me to have it taxed and all? If I change it to commercial what would the difference be?

Dan Osullivan (Killarney)

Feb 2021 Filed under: importing

Expert answer

Hi Dan,

OK, so I’m assuming that you mean bringing in a Range Rover Sport from the UK? It’s going to be pretty expensive. A rough VRT calculation suggests you’re looking at around €5,500 minimum for VRT, and then you’ll have to pay import duty (ten per cent) and 21 per cent VAT on top of that. Most likely you’re looking at a total cost of around €9-10,000 to get it registered here.

If you converted it to a commercial, that might help, but it would mean an expensive, full conversion, removing the back seats and bolting in a load floor. You’d also have to get the work done in the UK before the car comes to Ireland, as otherwise you’d have to pay the full passenger car VRT when it gets here. That would lower your VRT rate to 13.3 per cent, and take out the NOx levy, which would help, but you’d still get stung for the VAT and import duty.


VRT process for a moped from the UK?

I bought a 2019 50cc moped from the UK in January 2021 and it was brought over by an NI courier on 27 January. Price was £835 for the bike and it has 1,700km on it. I have VRT inspection on 4 March. The sale invoice is the courier’s business invoice with the UK seller's name, address and buyer's name and address on it.

Wondering what VRT process will be for this with new system after 1 January re VAT and customs. In addition re 30 days to register I had a heart attack on 15 January... Can this be an exceptional circumstances reason for not having it registered within 30 days? If the invoice had been dated for example in December 2020 would that make a difference?

Thanks

Joseph Flegg (Newtowncunningham)

Feb 2021 Filed under: importing

Expert answer

Hi Joseph,

We hope you’re on the mend from the heart attack. All the best wishes from us.

Yes, I would certainly imagine that such a serious medical emergency would be a valid reason for any delays and overruns in the VRT application procedure. Knowing Revenue, though, you’ll need paperwork so maybe give your GP a ring and ask for a letter confirming your condition and the dates on which you suffered the attack and any hospital stays. 

As for the process, there’s now import duty and VAT to be paid on any import from Great Britain. The import duty will be ten per cent of the price you paid, plus delivery and carriage costs, while VAT will be calculated on the open market selling price. That said, VRT won’t be much — It’s €2 per CC, so just €100, and even then you’ll get a rebate of 30 per cent on that because it’s two years old — so you’ll pay just €70 in VRT. The invoice date wouldn’t make any difference — your rates will be worked out on the basis of the date of inspection.