Can I claim back VAT on this Passat?
Hi.
I saw a 2018 Volkswagen Passat GTE for sale in the UK. It is VAT-qualifying. Does this mean I can claim back the VAT on it, therefore cancelling out paying the new VAT applied after Brexit? If so I will just be paying VRT?
Eoin BurkeJan 2021 Filed under: importing
Expert answer
Hi Eoin,
If you are, yourself, VAT registered, or if your company is and you’re buying the car through the company, then that may well be possible, but I would check with your accountant just to be certain before taking any leaps. Also, don't forget about the NOx levy and customs duty that will be due regardless. Read our Guide to Importing Cars from the UK feature for full details.
Can you calculate this Peugeot's VRT?
Any chance I could ask you to calculate the VRT on the car below for me please? The car is a 2018 Peugeot 3008 1.6 diesel with 30,000 miles on the clock and is listed at £15,000, or about €18,000. I tried to calculate it and the VRT was coming out at nearly €10,000.
Regards
John
John McSweeney (Kinsale Road Commercial Park)Jan 2021 Filed under: VRT
Expert answer
Hi John,
You've asked solely about VRT, so we're assuming you're importing the car from the North, not England, Wales or Scotland. If it's not from the North, you'll have to pay VAT and customs duty as well as VRT and the NOx levy.
So, the price it is listed at means effectively nothing. Revenue will come up with its own OMSP (Open Market Selling Price), which it reckons it would sell for in Ireland at the time of the registration changeover. It's not easy to estimate what that would be. We'd guess €26,000.
A quick search shows that car's WLTP CO2 rating at 147g/km (depends on which specific version of that car you are looking at), which means a VRT rate of 21 per cent. At an OMSP of €26,000, that means VRT of €5,460. The NOx levy will be on top of that.
Has Brexit affecting importing used cars?
How have/will the Brexit trade agreement effect importing cars from the UK?
Gerard Mccarthy (Mullingar)Jan 2021 Filed under: importing
Expert answer
Hi Gerard,
Yes, the final Brexit-exit has indeed caused some changes. According to Revenue, if you’re importing a car from the UK, you will now have to complete an electronic customs declaration form BEFORE going to collect the vehicle (you can find them here) and you’ll then be liable for three potential costs — customs duty, VRT (as before, including the NOx charge) and VAT, currently at 21 per cent. That VAT charge, previously only applied to vehicles that are either new or less than six months old (or with fewer than 6,000km on the clock) now applies to all imports.
Except it doesn’t — if you import a car from Northern Ireland, thanks to NI’s new special status as per the Brexit withdrawal agreement, then the VAT will only be charged on new vehicles, and you won’t have to pay any customs duty (sometimes referred to as import duty).
Incidentally, that customs duty (which is charged at 10 per cent of the total value of the car, plus carriage costs) will NOT be applied if the car was built in the UK, or in an EU country. That’s a potential minefield as you’d be surprised how many cars that you assume to be British or European are actually made in, say, South Africa or the US. It obviously affects Japanese and Korean-built cars, but again, you’d be surprised how many of those that we buy are actually built in the UK, France, Slovakia or elsewhere in Europe.
Do we pay VAT on UK-imported cars now?
If I import a second hand UK car (from England, Scotland or Wales) into the Republic of Ireland from 2021 on, am I liable to pay VAT and/or an import charge on top of the current VRT and NOx charge?
Keiron Fletcher (Meath)Jan 2021 Filed under: importing
Expert answer
Hi Keiron,
Yes, there’s been a bit of a shake-up in imports from the UK, post Jan 1st (which kind of got lost in all the COVID and Trump headlines). According to Revenue, if you’re importing a car from the UK, you will now have to complete an electronic customs declaration form BEFORE going to collect the vehicle (you can find them here) and you’ll then be liable for three potential costs — customs duty, VRT (as before, including the NOx charge) and VAT, currently at 21 per cent. That VAT charge, previously only applied to vehicles that were either new or less than six months old (or with fewer than 6,000km on the clock) now applies to all imports.
Except it doesn’t — if you import a car from Northern Ireland, thanks to NI’s new special status as per the Brexit withdrawal agreement, then the VAT will only be charged on new vehicles, and you won’t have to pay any customs duty (sometimes referred to as import duty).
Incidentally, that customs duty (which is charged at 10 per cent of the total value of the car, plus carriage costs) will NOT be applied if the car was built in the UK, or in an EU country. That’s a potential minefield as you’d be surprised how many cars that you assume to be British or European are actually made in, say, South Africa or the US. It obviously affects Japanese and Korean-built cars, but again, you’d be surprised how many of those that we buy are actually built in the UK, France, Slovakia or elsewhere in Europe.
An unusual import situation for you...
I bought a car up north last January, had to pay the VAT on it. Gearbox then went, eventually got the car back this December, after a lot of arguments. Have to pay VRT now. How do I go about it because the car was here in January? Any help?
Keith Higgins (Meath)Jan 2021 Filed under: importing
Expert answer
Hi Keith,
OK, this isn’t a normal import situation, clearly, so I would — first off — gather up every single piece of paper, receipt and email that shows how this all unfolded. Technically speaking, the regulations make no allowances for mechanical defects, and you should have booked the appointment for inspection and VRT valuation at the time in January. However, given that the defect would have materially affected the value of the car, not to mention your consumer rights, you might be able to argue your case. Get on to Revenue straight away though. Any delay starts to look like you’re trying to pull a fast one.
Can I get insured on a car-van privately?
Is it possible to get insured on a small car-van for private use?
PJ Kielty (Ballina, Tipperary)Dec 2020 Filed under: insurance
Expert answer
Hi PJ,
It should be possible, yes, but it's not as straightforward as you'd hope. Best bet is to use an independent insurance broker to find a suitable policy.
NCT test for privately taxed van?
If I tax a van privately, which test applies, NCT or commercial vehicle test?
Martin from Carlow
Martin Smith (Carlow)Dec 2020 Filed under: NCT
Expert answer
Hi Martin,
The van still needs to go through the CVRT, not the NCT.
Should I stick with BMW diesel for now?
I drive 65,000km a year, mostly to Dublin, Cork and Galway and Dublin Airport. I have owned four 520d M Sports and on average get 40mpg. I am changing again and very interested in hybrid and considering a 530e M Sport with 26,000km on it. I change the car about every 15 months as I do high mileage and would like to go greener but running costs are my main concern. Currently I get the VAT back on diesel as I am VAT registered. I'm conscious that we will eventually have to go this way and wondering should I make that move now. What do you think?
Howard Simpson (Ballymoe)Dec 2020 Filed under: choosing new car
Expert answer
Hi Howard,
If I were you, I'd stick with diesel for now. Assuming that, with such high mileage, you won't have time to plug the car in to charge it up regularly, the 530e won't get near the 520d's average economy. Once the battery charge is used up, you're effectively driving a heavy petrol car. The fact you're VAT-registered and can claim back the VAT on the diesel is another reason to stick with it for now.
Yes, electrification is coming to all cars, but we don't believe it suits all motorists just yet. The beauty of you changing your car every 15 months is that you can react quite quickly to changes in taxation and new model launches.
Can I claim back VRT importing to NI?
I live in the Northern Ireland. If I buy a new car from a dealer in the Republic, can I claim back the VRT and pay UK import duties? Would this be financially wise?
Jackie Rodgers (DERRY)Dec 2020 Filed under: VRT
Expert answer
Hi Jackie,
Yes, but there’s a better way to do it. If you’re buying from a dealer, it would be easier for them to claim back the VRT at the point of export, and sell you the car at the ex-VRT price. Not all dealers will be happy to do this but it’s worth asking the question. As a private buyer with UK residency, you’ll have to jump through a lot of hoops to claim back the VRT yourself.
About to buy a Nissan X-Trail van...
Hi there,
I am about to purchase a Nissan X-Trail 1.6 two-seat diesel van for private use. What will the annual motor tax be and what mpg should I expect?
Eddie HOWLEY (KILKENNY)Dec 2020 Filed under: taxation
Expert answer
Hi Eddie,
If you tax a commercial vehicle for private use then it goes by its engine size, regardless of how new it is. The X-Trail's engine is a 1,598cc unit so it costs €514 a year to tax privately. Read more in our Buying a commercial vehicle for private use feature.
As for the X-Trail's economy, it will depend more on how and where you drive it than anything else. The 1.6 diesel car, which is heavier than the van, officially returned about 56mpg. We'd expect you to match that at a 100km/h cruise and maybe average closer to 40mpg unladen for general use.