Paperwork needed for NI imported car?
Buying a car purchased by a NI garage before Xmas but originally registered in UK. Do I need additional paperwork for VRT centre e.g. proof they purchased and imported cars before Brexit?
L GKellyFeb 2021 Filed under: importing
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Hi Leanne,
In theory, no. According to Revenue’s official wording on this, you don’t have to pay either import duty nor VAT on a used car coming from Northern Ireland as long as it was either previously registered to a business or an individual resident in the North, or was sold to you by a car dealer whose business is registered and addressed in the North. In theory, the invoice for the car, issued by the dealership when you bought it, should cover you but just make sure you have as much paperwork as humanly possible to back you up.
Can I buy a Citroen Ami here?
Hi there.
I have been reading about the Citroen AMI all electric vehicle and am very interested in purchasing one. Citroen Ireland tells me it has no plans to market the vehicle here. I am wondering how our department would treat this vehicle; as an electric car? Or quadricycle? Would Revenue want a cut for importing a vehicle? VAT and VRT? Purchase price is circa €6,000 in France and you can buy one online. I don't have the finances to buy a "Normal" electric vehicle where the cheapest seems to be in the €25K region. Would the Department of Transport want road tax, log book, registration fees etc?
Any pointers you might offer would be appreciated.
John Ryan. Dublin 12
John Ryan (Dublin 12)Feb 2021 Filed under: electric cars
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Hi John,
Citroen is currently reviewing options on potentially introducing the Ami to Ireland in the future. Initially the car was only to be produced in left-hand drive, but this is now being reconsidered due to high levels of interest in the car from the UK market. If the car was to be officially sold here it would be liable for the applicable VAT and VRT rates and would require motor tax and insurance, in the same way that the Renault Twizy does. These would also apply if you were to privately import one.
Can I claim back VAT on a UK import?
Hi,
Can I claim VAT back on a second hand UK car? I’m not VAT-registered. I’m looking at importing a Jan 2020 electric Peugeot e-208.
Cheers
Dave Bohan (Cork)
Dave Bohan (Cork)Feb 2021 Filed under: importing
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Hi Dave,
I’m afraid not. If you were VAT-registered and buying a commercial vehicle strictly for business use, then yes you could, but on a private car? No way, I’m afraid. Worse, you’ll have to pay VAT in two territories thanks to Brexit, unless you're buying from Northern Ireland.
Read our Guide to Importing Cars from the UK feature for more.
Worried about insuring a Ranger privately...
Hi there,
I found your article on commercial vehicles very helpful. I am looking to buy a Ford Ranger from a family member. It’s currently taxed and insured commercially, but I plan to buy it and change the tax to private and only then can I get an insurance quote. Can you please tell me a little about the process? I feel like I’m buying a little blindly since I can’t get an insurance quote until I tax the vehicle privately. I can’t tax it privately until I buy it.
Any help would be appreciated.
John
John Wedick (Wexford )Feb 2021 Filed under: insurance
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Hi John,
Yes, we’ve been hearing from more than a few readers that while taxing a commercial as a private vehicle is simple enough, getting insurance is another matter entirely. As ever, our first advice for any insurance query is to find a good broker who can help you out. In this specific case, as the car is coming from a family member, might it be worth asking them to tax it as a private car? They could simply then inform their existing insurer who may not even bother to raise their premium if the transaction is to take place soon. You could then approach other insurers with a pickup that’s already registered as a private car.
VAT situation on importing from UK?!
Probably done to death but I can't see anything concrete stated as I trawl the sites. All I can see is "you may be liable for VAT," but no clarity on what conditions will change that "may" to a "will". From the latest guidance I could find on Revenue's website for a private buyer buying used car (>6,000 miles) from a UK (VAT-registered) trader that I could see (snippet below) my understanding would be that I could buy from a UK dealer (a VAT-registered one) and import paying VRT (and the NOx levy) as normal but without any VAT liability.
I can't see clear guidance on import duties, but assume that 10 per cent is valid on entry. Any expert knowledge out there that can clarify why I'm (likely) wrong?
10.1 Purchase of second-hand vehicles by a private individual from a person in another country
Where a private individual purchases a second-hand vehicle from a VAT-registered trader, including a motor dealer, in another country
Where a private individual purchases a second-hand vehicle from a motor dealer or any VAT-registered trader in another country, the price will generally include any VAT or other tax chargeable in that country. This VAT cannot be reclaimed. There is no VAT liability in Ireland. In respect of VRT, the owner of the vehicle must make a booking with an NCTS Centre within 7 days of the vehicle entering the State and registration must be completed within 30 days of the vehicle entering the State. The VRT liability can be calculated using the VRT Calculator on the Revenue website.
John Scmidt (Dublin)Feb 2021 Filed under: importing
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Hi John,
In theory you might be right, and we suspect that there won’t be 100 per cent clarity on this issue until there have been further negotiations between the EU and the UK, or a case is tested in court. The problem is, of course, that with the UK now being a ’third country’ post-Brexit, you could possibly claim back the VAT from the UK authorities on the car’s exit from the UK. You’d most likely have to do that after you’ve paid your VRT and VAT in Ireland, and the paperwork would doubtless be monstrous.
Might be worth a try, though.
Is my dad's GTR exempt from VRT?
Hi,
My dad is thinking about moving to Ireland for good from a different European country and he would like to bring his left-hand-drive 2015 Nissan GT-R with him. He has owned the car for over eight months now. Would he be exempt ftom VRT, VAT and duty charge? It's hard to calculate the VRT on this car but I think it could be around €30k?!
Thanks, Paul
Paul Mikolajczyk (Galway)Feb 2021 Filed under: VRT
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Hi Paul,
Yes, VRT on a GT-R would be monstrous, appropriately enough for a car known as ‘Godzilla.’ Happily, yes, if your dad is permanently moving to Ireland, and can demonstrate proof of his new address and residency, then he’ll be exempt from VRT and the car is too old now to incur any VAT charges.
Do I have the new Brexit import rules right?
Hi,
I usually change car every three years and I buy in the UK and import, usually Audi A6 diesel ultra. With the changes just so I’m right, emissions will have gone up, also VAT will be applicable on top of VRT now? Also, this applies only from the UK? If you buy a Belfast car it’s VRT and emissons, no VAT, is that correct?
Thanks
Fran
Fran Duffy (Kells Meath)Feb 2021 Filed under: importing
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Hi Fran,
You have it in a nutshell there, except the UK is defined as including Northern Ireland. Just be careful of the details. Such as NOx levy regardless of where you import it from. And there's also custom duty if you buy from England, Scotland or Wales, but not the North. Oh, and this is all assuming we're talking about a car that's older than six months old and has more than 6,000km on the clock, as otherwise that's classed as new and there is a VAT complication coming from the North.
Read our Guide to Importing Cars from the UK for more
VRT on motorbikes for 2021 on?
How does VRT work for importing second hand motorbikes from the UK in 2021? Can't find information anywhere.
Thanks, Daniel
Daniel B (Dublin)Jan 2021 Filed under: importing
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Hi Daniel,
The VRT bit of importing a motorbike works the same as before in that you’re charged €2 for each cubic centimetre of engine capacity up to 350cc, and €1 for each cc above that. That charge is then discounted by ten per cent for bikes between three months and one year old, 20 per cent for one-to-two years, 40 per cent for two-to-three years, 50 per cent for three-to-four years, 60 per cent for four-to-five years, 70 per cent for five-to-seven years, 80 per cent for seven-to-ten years, 90 per cent for ten-to-30 years, and is totally waived once the bike is 30 years old or older.
The new charges are, of course, import duty and VAT. VAT will be charged at 21 per cent, regardless of age, and there will be a ten per cent import duty (based on the price you paid and the cost of transport and delivery) unless more than 55 per cent of the original value of the parts used to build the bike originated in the UK.
Can I insure and tax a van privately in Ireland?
Can I insure and tax a van privately in Ireland?
Ann Byrnes (Ireland)Jan 2021 Filed under: commercial vehicle
Expert answer
Hi Ann,
Taxing a van privately is easy. You just need to inform your local motor tax office that you are changing its use. You'll probably pay more in annual motor tax, as it goes by the engine size.
Insuring a commercial vehicle privately is not so easy, annoyingly. We advise you employ the services of a good broker to find you an insurer, as most of the large insurers will just give you the "computer says no" answer...
Give our Buying a commercial vehicle for private use feature a read too.
Why so expensive to import this Civic?
Hi,
I just got a shocking price trying to import a 2005 Honda Civic EP3, a UK car. Before Xmas it was €1,200 even on the 1st of January through the VRT calculator. My car and engine was on the calculator and then removed. I purchased but didn't collect on 28th of December 2020. It has 105,000 miles on it and NOx of 0.028 gram and I was quoted €4,575 VRT - it costs more than the car did.
I know a person in my area who just bought a Premium Edition 2005 with 120,000 miles and late fee of €600 and he cleared his for €3,040. Why am I being charged more and as I did buy it last year it should still be on last year's rate. It was delivered on 5th of Jan to me and could not get VRT appointment until 19th of Jan.
Thanks
Dec
Declan Mccormack (Sligo)Jan 2021 Filed under: importing
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Hi Declan,
Unfortunately, this is the way things have gone now. Revenue were being relatively generous (relatively is of course a relative term…) in the first couple of weeks of January for people who’d imported in December and been unable to get an inspection date until January, but that grace period seems now to have passed.
Given that the car didn’t come into your possession until after Jan 1st, I don’t think they’ll give you a break on it, I’m afraid, and of course it’s not that you’re paying extra in VRT (although you are, a little, of course thanks to the switch to WLTP emissions), you’re actually paying extra in VAT and import duty thanks to Brexit. I wish I could give you better news, but these are the perils of importing a car.