Thinking of getting a BMW i3...
Hi,
Are EVs exempt from VRT if looking to import one? Having trouble with the Passat and if and when it gets sorted my wife wants it gone and to treat ourselves so started looking at used BMW 4 Series Gran Coupe but tow truck friend warning us away from the 2.0 diesels: "doesn't matter who had it, where or how often it's been serviced or easy life, they are all trouble." And 3.0 diesel harder to find here but still give timing chain trouble.
Son is 20 and learning to drive so depending on cost to fix may dictate keeping it so third car turning to a BMW i3. When I met my wife she drove a SEAT Arosa and we kept that and I used it for my backroad commute to work for years as economical second car runabout.
With fuel, both diesel and petrol rising it might tick a few boxes to look at small economical runabout, it's auto so will suit both wife and son and our first step into EV.
Earlier with the range extender seems lower on the recommend list compared to the later fully electric 2018 onwards or i3S model.
ROS VRT site looks like it has had an update and gave both i3 and i3S options but wasn't clever enough to blank out NOx and CO2 fields. When checking rates for i3S it auto filled a figure for NOx, which I just cancelled out.
Ideally I'd like to buy from a BMW or SIMI dealer with history and warranty and liked your article on importing from Northern Ireland.
Appreciate any advice on importing an i3 (or 4 Series Gran Coupe) from up North
Regards
Damien McGettrick (Lusk)Sep 2024 Filed under: electric cars
Expert answer
Hi Damien,
First up, the BMW i3 is a great option for your needs based on what you told us. It's a cracking compact car that will cost you nothing to run and is an idea runabout. And yes, I'd agree that the fully electric version is the best one, especially when you have access to other cars in the household for longer journeys.
I really like the 4 Series Gran Coupe as well, but understand the reticence to trust the diesel engines. Would you consider a petrol one instead perhaps? The NOx levy on the diesel on importation can be expensive as well. Because of potential engine issues I'd be inclined to stick with a local BMW dealer and get as good a warranty as you can.
Obviously electric cars don't emit any NOx or CO2, so it's a bit bizarre if Revenue's site can't deal with that... There is a VRT exemption up to €5,000 and anyway, it's only 7 per cent of the Open Market Selling Price (OMSP).
If you're looking to buy in the North, just make sure the car has been registered and used by a private individual in the North for at least three months before you import it, and that must be verified by documentation. Then no VAT or import duty should be due, just VRT - and the NOx levy if applicable.
Hopefully all that helps, but come back to us with other specific questions if you need more assistance of course.
Should we go for a new or used Skoda Enyaq?
Hi
We have a 2020 SEAT Leon (most recent design) which we own outright. We are thinking of changing to an electric car, possibly an Enyaq. Can you please give a view on whether it’s better to go for a one-year-old Enyaq or to go for PCP on a new one (probably early next year) but we wish to minimise the cost of changing.
Suggestions on alternative but similar cars would also be appreciated which would maximise the value we might get for our car. Any advice on this conundrum would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you
Colin Ryan (Malahide)Sep 2024 Filed under: choosing new car
Expert answer
Hi Colin,
There's no definitive answer to this one as there are so many moving parts. First up, you'll get maximum value for your own car if you sell it privately. That is far less convenient than trading it in of course, but worth taking into consideration.
If you're going the trade-in route, there's no way to know for sure how much the cost to change will be until you start talking numbers with a dealer. I'd suggest you do that sooner rather than later with a number of different dealers to get a feel for the numbers involved. You don't need to commit to anything to do this. It'll take you time of course, but try to choose a few dealers that are not part of the same group or brand, and do the sums with them on both a new PCP and going for a used model as you mentioned.
Perhaps wait until the Budget announcements next month to see if there is anything new on EV incentives before committing to anything, but don't leave it much longer as some new cars can take a few months to arrive following an order.
The Enyaq is a fine electric car. Good alternatives include the Volkswagen ID.4 and forthcoming new Cupra Tavascan, plus the Renault Scenic. There's loads of choice at that price point.
Are my calculations right on importing this Honda?
Hi,
I've recently paid a substantial deposit on a car in Northern Ireland. (I/we live in Ireland). We bought a petrol car as the import charges are a lot less than diesel. I worked it out to be approximately €196 NOx charge and about €1,200 VRT. In total the cost of the car is under £3,000 Sterling. It is a 2012 Honda CR-V 2.0 petrol.
Can you please advise me urgently as I was going to collect my new car this weekend. If I’m being misled please let me know so I can try to stop the sale due to this discrepancy and get my refund back.
Thanks
Raymond O Callaghan (Slane)Sep 2024 Filed under: importing
Expert answer
Hi Raymond,
Following on from our separate conversation, you've confirmed that car is on a Northern Ireland number plate, so I'd assume it has been used in the North by a private individual for quite some time. A quick check of the UK's MOT history service confirms the car was tested in the North since at least 2018.
You'll need documentation to prove all this on importation, but it would appear that you will not be liable for VAT or import duty on this car.
So then it's just VRT and the NOx levy.
It would appear that the NOx rating is 23mg/km, which means a bill of €150 if that's correct.
The CO2 rating appears to be 190g/km, though that would be on the old pre-WLTP system and it needs to be 'uplifted' by Revenue's calculations. That would bring it into the top band, at 41 per cent of the OMSP (Open Market Selling Price). The OMSP is the value Revenue believes the car to be worth on the Irish market, and it's not always an easy figure to guess accurately.
There don't see to be many similar cars on sale in Ireland now so our job is made more difficult by that. If you assume an OMSP of €12,000 as a worst case then VRT would be 41 per cent of that, at €4,920. Obviously, that final figure depends massively on the OMSP.
Hope that helps
Costs to import a 2018 campervan?
I'd like to import a 2018 campervan...
If I were to import a campervan, what are the payments I would need to think about: VRT, NOx, customs, VAT? How could I know for sure before importing a campervan what value would be considered OMSP because from Irish sites the prices seem to be very varied, which is a problem.
Cait NiRiain (Dublin)Sep 2024 Filed under: importing
Expert answer
Hi Cait,
VRT is 13.3 per cent of the Open Market Selling Price (OMSP), but unfortunately there's no way to accurately predict that ahead of time, especially for campers as there is such variation in the market. You can appeal a valuation after the VRT has been paid, which isn't very helpful.
Campers are not subject to the NOx levy, you'll be glad to know.
However, if the camper is coming from outside the EU (including England, Scotland and Wales), you will also be liable for 23 per cent VAT and 10 per cent import duty. In most cases, campers imported from Northern Ireland do not attract these taxes, but only if they've been registered and used by private owners in the North before you buy it.
I'd like to import a 2018 campervan...
I would like to import a lovely UK converted campervan that's a 2018 Mercedes Sprinter long van, with probably about 100k on the clock. How much would I expect to pay to import it? Will it be Band 20 or 13.3 per cent VRT? What's the OMSP of that vehicle? Is it the base van or the random price for a camper on DoneDeal?
Cait NiRiain (Dublin)Sep 2024 Filed under: importing
Expert answer
Hi Cait,
If it's a properly certified conversion then VRT should be just 13.3 per cent of the Open Market Selling Price (OMSP). That OMSP is what Revenue believes the vehicle is worth in its current state on the Irish market, so not the base van.
One thing to watch out for: if the car is coming from England, Wales or Scotland then you are likely to be liable for VAT and import duty as well as the VRT.
Looking to import a VW ID.3...
Hi, looking to import a 2022 Volkswagen ID.3 with 12,000 miles on the clock. It was owned and registered to a garage in the North.
The VRT Calculator indicates a zero charge on both VRT and NOx. My question is regarding the VAT, as the vehicle is registered to a garage, rather than a private individual, and zero VAT has been paid. The garage have agreed to give me an invoice to show I would have paid the the 23 per cent VAT on the purchase price. My understanding from talking to VRT office, because it is registered to a garage it will have paid zero VAT, so I will have to pay it here in the south. Where as if it was a private individual the VAT would have been paid in the North at the time of purchase.
Am I liable for VAT on it here in the South? Any advice or help appreciated thanks.
Des Minihan (Ennis)Sep 2024 Filed under: importing
Expert answer
Hi Des,
Yes, our understanding of the rules would suggest the same, that you will be liable for 23 per cent VAT and 10 per cent import dutyon registering the car in the Republic.
Cost to tax these pick-up trucks?
Hello,
To tax a 2016 Volkswagen Amarok 2.0 diesel or a 2017 Nissan Navara 2.3 privately what would it cost?
R Hughes (Galway)Sep 2024 Filed under: taxation
Expert answer
Hi there,
Private taxation on a commercial vehicle reverts to engine size, so that Amarok would be €710 per year and the Navara would be €994.
Looking at a Mercedes C-Class in the North...
Looking at purchasing a 2018 Mercedes C-Class from Northern Ireland.
The car was first registered in the UK but was sold then and in Northern Ireland since May 2021 to the person I am thinking of purchasing from. It states on the Revenue website that if the vehicle was previously in use in Northern Ireland for a reasonable amount of time and I can provide copy of the V5 showing last registered keeper and the date it was registered to them and an MOT history I won't have to pay additional customs and VAT.
Would three years suffice as a reasonable amount of time?
Lisa M (Clare)Aug 2024 Filed under: importing
Expert answer
Hi Lisa,
Yes, three years certainly counts as a reasonable amount of time. It's always worth double-checking the facts with Revenue before committing to the purchase, though.
Can you clarify importing an EV from the North?
I’m getting pretty confused even reading your guide on importing cars into Ireland from NI. I get that cars registered before 2021 are exempt from VAT and duty, but after that, are electric and hybrid vehicles also exempt from VAT and duty?
Matthew Pierce (Dublin)Aug 2024 Filed under: importing
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Hi Matthew,
The rules on VAT and import duty don't vary between different types of cars or powertrains.
Can I get around import VAT and duty like this?
Regarding the importing of vehicles, you mentioned that the vehicle must be registered to an NI owner for a reasonable amount of time. Now, if I personally buy a vehicle in England and register it in Northern Ireland (meets Windsor Framework) does it mean if I keep it for three months I can register it myself and get VAT free in Ireland? I have read about the transfer of residence (TOR) which requires six months of vehicle ownership. If I prove that the vehicle was in use in NI and registered for a reasonable time by myself though, would I be eligible?
Boom Shak (Belfast)Aug 2024 Filed under: importing
Expert answer
Hi there,
If you live in the North and then move to the South with that car in that way, then I don't see why not, though you'd still be liable for VRT and the NOx levy of course.
As ever, we advise readers to talk through unusual cases directly with Revenue before committing to bringing a car in.
