Why are cars a rip-off in Ireland?
My question is: why are cars in Ireland a rip-off compared to the rest of the world? I live in the USA and just bought a 2010 Hyundai Santa Fe top-of-the-line model with leather, navigation, Onstar system and many more items for just $21,000.
Hyundai changes a few things on each of its models every year. The Santa Fe in Ireland has been the same since the model was realesed in 2007. Why are the specs so bad in Irish cars? And why are the people putting up with it? Who makes the decision to sell cars like that in Ireland?
The cars in the UK are much better spec wise. If you look at people carriers, the options in Ireland are so small and silly. Take a look at the new 2011 Toyota Sienna. It is a very nice car. Why can Irish people not get these kinds of cars?
Thanks, Raymond
RAYMOND FINUCANE (USA)Aug 2010 Filed under: taxation
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Hello Raymond,
One word: tax. The United States and our near neighbours the UK aren't subject to anything like the taxation that we are when it comes to cars. The base price of our cars before you add VAT and Vehicle Registration Tax (VRT) have always been among the lowest in Europe. But when you add the taxes obviously the cars start becoming expensive.
But also, because these taxes are also on optional extras (including safety features) then car distributors often have to bring in very basic versions so that the ordinary buyer can afford them. Hence, items that you would normally see as standard in other markets have often been taken out, even if this is something like ESP, which is a life-saving safety device.
Those selling the cars have to do this because of how much of the car's value is going to the Government coffers. It has long been an issue in Ireland and one that the EU have taken a strong interest in too, because it sees it as double taxation on an item, which is against EU law.
There are also other issues in relation to strengths of currencies at any given time and also that the USA has a manufacturing supply, so specific US-built cars are sold there and aren't treated as imported vehicles. Of course the US is a massive market and hence economies of scale come into play, where as Ireland is a tiny market in comparison.
Prices have come down here because at least now cars are taxed on their CO2 emissions and not their engine size, which was the case until July 2008 and made little sense. It meant that nobody bought diesel cars but instead bought small, underpowered petrol ones instead.
With petrol (or should I say 'gas') much cheaper in the US, it has always been easier to buy V6, V8 or even V12 petrol cars there too.
Obviously it isn't ideal for us here in Ireland, but in Europe there are many countries just like us, including Denmark, Norway and Portugal so we are not alone. Just count yourself lucky that you are buying in the US!
I hope this answers your question.
Why is the gear change so jerky on the Auris MMT?
Why is the gear change so jerky on the Toyota Auris MMT in the e-mode?
Stephen Fahey (Lemybrien)Aug 2010 Filed under: automatic
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Hi Stephen,
As you may already know, the Auris MMT isn't a standard automatic but is a manual with an electronic clutch. This has an economy advantage over a standard automatic car thanks to the lack of an inefficient torque converter. However, this gearbox has been criticised for its jerkiness.
Driving it in traffic, if can often select first gear where you would normally move off in second with a standard manual transmission. An automated manual like the MMT will not be as smooth as a standard auto or CVT as the car still has a clutch and a manual gearbox.
You can reduce the jerkiness between gears by easing off the throttle as you would in a regular manual car.
What costs are likely for a 1998 Toyota Corolla?
I am considering buying a used 1998 Toyota Corolla 1.3 with 163,000 miles on the clock. I expect to do 15,000 miles per year. Over next five years what wear and tear repairs might i expect?
Fiona Milne (Wexford)Jun 2010 Filed under: running costs
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Hi Fiona,
With a car of that age and high mileage you really have to be prepared for a lot to go wrong. Toyotas of that age have an excellent reliability record, but depending on how the car was used and maintained up to now there are still likely to be things that require replacing. Obviously normal items like brakes, clutch and filters will require regular checks, but with a car of that age you need to watch out for CV joints, suspension bushings, ball joints, gear linkages, engine mountings, etc. That engine is quite robust, but make sure it has had its timing belt regularly changed if possible before buying the car. Also watch out for oil leaks and high coolant temperatures.
In summary, you really need to be ready for anything to go wrong in a car of that age and mileage.
What diesel car should I go for if I scrap my Toyota Corolla?
I am scrapping my 2000 Toyota Corolla and want to buy a similarly sized new diesel car. The new Corolla is too large. Which is best for comfort, economy and reliability?
Donal O'Shea (Midleton)Jun 2010 Filed under: scrappage
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Hi Donal,
We got a little more information from you and we now know that your budget is around €20,000 with scrappage. The Corolla has grown in size as a saloon so I guess you aren't after something of that size. My first thought had been a Skoda Octavia diesel, which starts at €19,340, but this is also quite a big car so might not appeal.
Another excellent choice would be the new revised Mazda3. This comes with a good diesel engine and is available as a saloon, but isn't overly bulky. We drove this car recently and found it really competent. The four-door saloon version starts at €22,525, though there is €3,530 off in the scrappage deal so it would cost you €18,995, which is well under budget.
Another option would be the Renault Fluence. This is a substantial car and you get so much for the money. We had the top spec TomTom edition and although the sticker price is €23,500 it drops to €19,000 under scrappage. Read our review of the car here. However, if you think the new Corolla is too big, you may find that the Fluence is as well.
It is very hard to look beyond the Ford Focus too. The saloon might be just over your budget, but there is an excellent offer on the hatchback, which is €21,015. With scrappage this would be under budget.
In answer to your question, best for comfort, economy and reliability (and not too big), the Mazda seems to suit you best out of this lot, especially when it comes to the price. They are pretty good at holding their value too.
I hope this helps. Please feel free to come back to us if you have more questions. Just drop them into the comment box below.
Which diesel automatic compact SUV to buy?
What do you think of the new Toyota RAV4 4x4 2.2 D automatic compared to BMW X1 D auto, Hyundai ix35 4X4 D auto, Kia Sportage 4X4 D auto or the Nissan Qashqai 4x4 D Auto?
Eamon Horan (Cork)May 2010 Filed under: choosing new car
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Hi Eamon,
That's quite a wide selection! Let's go through each model first of all:
Toyota RAV4:
Going by your shortlist you obviously need four-wheel drive and an automatic transmission. There's only a single Toyota RAV4 on sale fitting that, the RAV4 Sol in 4wd powered by the 'D-Cat 150 (2.2)' engine. That's a 2.2-litre turbodiesel. Choice stats:
- Price: €39,465
- CO2 emissions: 189g/km
- Tax band: E
- Annual road tax: €630
- Combined cycle fuel consumption: 7.2 litres per 100 kilometres
- Maximum power: 150hp
- Maximum torque: 340Nm
- Towing ability: Up to 1,800kg
BMW X1:
The cheaper xDrive18d model doesn't seem to have an automatic option so you'd have to go for the xDrive20d SE at least. The stats:
- Price: €43,091
- CO2 emissions: 155g/km
- Tax band: C
- Annual road tax: €302
- Combined cycle fuel consumption: 5.9 litres per 100 kilometres
- Maximum power: 180hp
- Maximum torque: 350Nm
- Towing ability: Up to 1,800kg
Hyundai ix35:
This is one of the newest SUVs on the market, but it's more of a crossover than an SUV really. That's emphasised by Hyundai only listing the two-wheel drive model with a manual gearbox on its website. It does say that "Automatic subject to availability. Please contact your local Hyundai Dealer", but we're not sure there is an automatic option available for this car as yet. We've asked Hyundai for clarification.
Kia Sportage:
There's an all-new Sportage launching later this year, so we assume you're thinking about that. Full details have yet to be released, though Kia tells us that, along with a new 1.7-litre turbodiesel engine a 2.0-litre turbodiesel 4x4 model will be offered on special order with an automatic gearbox. Tax will be band D, costing €447 per year. I'm afraid that's all we know at this stage. We're driving it next month for the first time.
Nissan Qashqai:
Nissan gave the Qashqai a facelift this year and it looks better than ever. For some reason the new look has not been applied to the seven-seat '+2' version on Nissan Ireland's website. However, the figures below refer to the regular five-seat version. The cheapest available with a diesel engine, four-wheel drive and an automatic gearbox is the Qashqai 2.0d A/T 4x4 SV. The stats:
- Price: €37,995
- CO2 emissions: 191g/km
- Tax band: F
- Annual road tax: €1,050
- Combined cycle fuel consumption: 7.2 litres per 100 kilometres
- Maximum power: 150hp
- Maximum torque: 320Nm
- Towing ability: Up to 1,400kg
Summary:
So, let's leave the Kia and Hyundai out of the equation for the moment, as we don't have enough information to make an informed decision.
The Toyota and Nissan compare well to each other. Like the Qashqai, the RAV4 was given a makeover for 2010 so it's fresher than ever. In diesel, automatic, four-wheel drive guise, the Toyota appears to win that battle, as the Qashqai is very expensive to tax. The Toyota is the better tow car too.
It looks like the Toyota probably wins outright on paper. The BMW X1 xDrive 20d is more powerful, significantly better on fuel and a newer design than the RAV4, but it's also a lot more to buy to begin with. Even paying less tax and fuel costs, it'd take a long time to claw that price difference back. Pity the xDrive18d doesn't come with an automatic transmission, as that could be a better choice, but in this list, the Toyota wins the logical argument.
Make sure you test drive examples of both before you decide and please do let us know in the comment box below what you end up doing.
How much for my Toyota Avensis?
Hi, I have a 2007 Toyota Avensis Strata in mint condition. There is only 19,000 miles on the clock and a Toyota service record. How much should I expect to get for this car in a private sale or as a trade-in? Great site by the way, best of luck with it.
Robbie Mc Grath (Dublin)May 2010 Filed under: used car values
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Hi Rob,
You could price your Avensis at about €11,500 - €12,000 as a private sale, but there are quite a lot about, not with mileage that low admittedly, but you should expect to drop a little lower to sell. You should get something similar against a new or used car as a trade-in, bearing in mind you would get a decent discount off something anyway. Remember, look at the cost to change rather than fixating on how much your car is worth.
Should I buy a new car now?
I currently have a 2005 Toyota Corolla with approx 48,000 miles on the clock. It is in excellent condition. I am wondering if now is a good time to sell and purchase a new car or would I be better to keep going as I am?
Bernadette Dowling (Dublin)May 2010 Filed under: choosing new car
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Hi Bernadette,
That is a very good question. Your car is now worth around about €7,000. That is a rough approximation going on what you've said and it is what you would be offered as a trade-in, so it would depend on what you wanted to spend on top of this.
But what I would say is that your car is low mileage for the year, so you would get more for it now as a trade-in than if you waited a year or so when the mileage will start to go against it.
This year is proving a very good one to do a deal, especially with all the discounting that is underway, so you could decide to capitalise on that. If finances allow then you probably should go for it now.
Conversely, you could get another five years service out of your Corolla without it missing a beat.
Trading up to a bigger family car.
Hi, I am hoping to trade up to a family car that will suit two toddlers and has a good sized boot. I am on the road a lot so need car that is very economical and safe and will last me a good while. Thinking of a 2007 or 2008 at a good price.
What do you recommend?
T McD (Roscommon)May 2010 Filed under: choosing used car
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Hi Tanya,
Without knowing your budget just yet, it is a little difficult to guess, but a car that is a top buy for a family, with a great boot is something like a Skoda Octavia. One like this has low mileage, a frugal diesel engine and will be perfect for a lot of mileage. It is solid and has a great sized boot too.
The Nissan Qashqai has been a massive seller in Ireland of late, with good reason too, as it is very good value, has a brilliant safety record, looks great and is perfect for a family. Here is a fully loaded 1.5-litre diesel for €20,950 with low mileage.
You could have the choice of a number of family hatchbacks too, such as a Ford Focus, Volkswagen Golf, Toyota Auris or perhaps even a small MPV.
Come back to us with more details and we will try and help you further. Just add your comment to the comment box below.
How does the Toyota Verso stack up?
Hi,
In relation to a family car, I see you have high praise for the Qashqai+2. How would a 2009 Toyota Verso compare in terms of space, safety, price, etc? Many thanks and good luck with the site.
Brian Keane (Dublin 16)
May 2010 Filed under: choosing used car
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The reason we have talked about the Qashqai+2 a lot of late is that there seems to be quite a few people asking us about seven seats, but not really wanting an MPV. The Verso is an MPV, so as such is usually compared to its main rivals such as the Ford C-MAX and Renault Scenic.
Compared to the Qashqai+2, the Verso comes with a 2.0-litre diesel engine and the Qashqai+2 usually comes with a 1.5-litre diesel engine. The Verso has more power with 125hp against 104hp in the Qashqai+2. The Verso has faster acceleration (about two seconds faster to 100km/h from rest) and in terms of fuel economy the Verso again is slightly more frugal. The CO2 emissions in are both Band C, with road tax of €302. However the new Qashqai+2 does drop a tax band to Band B.
Both cars have five-star Euro NCAP safety ratings and come with multiple airbags. ESP (electronic stability control) is standard fit on both cars too. The rear-most row of seats would be more generous in the Verso compared to the Qashqai+2 even though they share an almost identical wheelbase. There is also more shoulder room in the second and third row of seats.
In terms of price, a 2009 Verso will cost you about €25,000 - €27,000, while a new Qashqai+2 will cost you from €30,450 for a new one and about €26,000 - €27,000 for a 2009 model.
Both have pretty poor luggage space with the rear-most seats in place, but loads with the third row folded, so it depends how often you intend using the seats.
I hope this helps.
First car for a student?
I want a good first car. I am a female student. Can you help? My budget is between €1,000 - €2,000
Helen Ryan (Limerick)May 2010 Filed under: choosing used car
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Hello Helen
Thank you for your enquiry. In this instance, we are going to look on the website beepbeep.ie, because that is the official classified website of SIMI, the Society of the Irish Motor Industry. Because we are looking at something on a budget we want to get something with as much history on it and as much security as possible for you. On that site, all cars come with a history check and they are also covered by the consumer protection act.
A couple of things are important here. One is that your car is cheap and the second is that it will be reliable and I suppose, attractive would be good too?
You could never accuse it of being sexy, but this Nissan Micra on sale at a dealership in Drogheda has done 80,000 miles and has had only two owners. It will cost you just €1,550 and will be cheap to run, insure and service:
This Toyota Yaris from 1999 has done 130,000 miles and while that might sound like a lot, this little car is well able for it and this could be a decent little buy that won't cause you too much heartache:
How about this? A 1995 Opel Corsa, which has only done 18,466 miles and has an NCT until early next year. That will cost you just €1,250:
However, what I really think would be a great first car for you would be the Ford Ka, which is a great little runabout and still looks funky. This 1999 model has only covered 52,000 miles and has an NCT until 01/11. It is advertised at €1,850 but I reckon you could get it as a straight deal for a little less:
Let us know if any of these don't float your boat and we will put on our thinking caps again!