Can I privately insure a commercial pick-up?
Hi,
I am buying a brand new commercial vehicle (pickup style) for private use. I will be taxing it privately. I have rang three insurance companies and they will not quote me privately on the vehicle because it is listed as a commercial vehicle on their system. Is there an insurance company that specialises in this type of private insurance? If not, how do I insure the vehicle?
Dermott Cunningham (Dublin)Jan 2021 Filed under: insurance
Expert answer
Hi Dermott,
Indeed, we’ve heard from more than a few readers about difficulties getting private insurance on a commercial. The first thing you need to do is to change the tax status of your pickup by phoning your nearest motor tax office, and ask them to transfer you to the private car taxation setting. That should help. The next thing to do is to get hold of a good insurance broker who can help you navigate through the sticky quicksand of Irish car insurance. There are no insurers who specialise, as far as we know, in commercial-to-private insurance
How about importing a van to make a camper?
What's the tax/VRT situation with buying a second hand van from the North and bringing it down south? I want to convert it to a camper and want to put Irish plates on it.
Thanks
James Moreton (Ennis)Jan 2021 Filed under: importing
Expert answer
Hi James,
Basically, the situation is as before — as long as the van is older than six months old or has more than 6,000km on the clock, then you’ll pay the usual VRT at 13.3 per cent of the OMSP (the Irish market price as defined by Revenue). As it’s from the North, you’ll also avoid the ten per cent customs duty. Once you do get the camper conversion done, the good news is that motor tax for a camper is only €102 a year.
What costs to import a Hilux from the North?
If I import a used 2017 Hilux from Northern Ireland, what additional costs do I have? I want to insure and tax as private as my business doesn’t have a VAT number. Cost of Hilux without VAT is £20,000 approx.
Damien Byrne (Ennis)Jan 2021 Filed under: importing
Expert answer
Hi Damien,
OK, as you don’t have a VAT number, you’ll have to pay the VAT on the Hilux at the time of purchase. But the good news is that, as you’re bringing it in from Northern Ireland, there won’t be any extra charges (no import duty and no Irish VAT) on top of the usual VRT payment. VRT will charged at 13.3 per cent of the Irish market value. That value should (emphasis on the should) be around €29,000, so VRT will be in the region of €3,900.
Having difficulty insuring a commercial Yeti...
Hi guys,
I was really interested to read your article on taxing and insuring commercial vehicles for private use. I drive a commercial Skoda Yeti (2.0-litre 4x4) that is registered commercially, but which I have taxed and insured privately. I have no VAT number so commercial tax and insurance is out of the question. Adding to this, I can only find one insurer to give me a policy. I was wondering if it's possible to re-register the car as a private vehicle that just happens to have no back seats. This was flagged as the reason insurers won't look at me (my driving history is squeaky clean). Any suggestions here would be great. I love the car and got a great price on it so I really dont want to sell it.
Conor Behan (Thomastown)Jan 2021 Filed under: insurance
Expert answer
Hi Conor,
You say you’ve already taxed the Yeti privately, is that right? Once you’ve informed your local motor tax office of the change of status, that should be sufficient for any insurer. That said, Irish insurers will find any excuse in the book to either not quote you, or to give you some astronomical quote just to make you go away. Our advice is to find a good insurance broker who can help you navigate the ins and outs.
I want to import a new Transit Custom...
Hi,
I am looking to purchase a brand new Ford Transit Custom MS-RT from the UK, which cannot be got in the Republic of Ireland. My question is , as I am VAT-registered, do I have to now pay VAT in the UK or give the dealer my Irish VAT number? Do I also have to pay import duty? Is there any other hidden cost?
Thanks
Alan
Alan O Riordan (Cork )Jan 2021 Filed under: importing
Expert answer
Hi Alan,
Yes, you’ll have to pay import duty, which will be ten per cent of the price of the car, plus transportation costs. You’ll also have to pay VAT twice — once to the UK authorities and again when you complete the import process here. If you’re VAT-registered you should be able to claim back the VAT at this end, but claiming it back from the UK will be much trickier.
In theory, the Brexit trade agreement allows for such things, but the paperwork’s a mess at the moment, and no-one really seems to know what’s going on. You could make things a little easier for yourself by buying from a dealer in Northern Ireland — you’ll not have to pay the ten per cent import duty and, although you’ll be stung for the VAT, the NI authorities are a little more switched on as there are reciprocal cross-border tax arrangements.
I'm about to buy my first car...
I have €1,300 saved for a first car. Preferably looking for a Polo or Golf with a smaller engine but anything will do. What kind of insurance would I be looking at for a young driver on something like that?
Bevan Gillmor (Mullingar)Jan 2021 Filed under: insurance
Expert answer
Hi Bevan,
Sadly, insurance is the critical thing here, and it’s the bit we can help you with least as Irish insurers — as ever — ladle on the risk when it comes to young drivers. Any ballpark figure we give you could be €1,000 — or more — out.
Make sense to import a van to convert?
Hi there,
I'm thinking of importing a panel van (Peugeot Boxer) from the UK to convert to a camper in Ireland. Is this a wise thing to do considering VRT etc?
Jason Christiansen (Mullingar)Dec 2020 Filed under: importing
Expert answer
Hi Jason,
It’s not a bad thing, at any rate. As far as campers are concerned, you get charged the same 13.3 per cent VRT rate as regular panel vans at the point of import (based on the Irish market price, of course), but the good news is that once you have it converted it’ll only cost you €102 to tax it for a year.
Do I need an insurance green card now?
I will be travelling from Wales via Holyhead by car. I am old enough to remember "green cards" for motorists on continental roads; will I require one when driving in the Irish Republic?
Eddy Rowlands, Anglesey
Eddy Rowlands (Beaumaris)Dec 2020 Filed under: insurance
Expert answer
Hi Eddy,
Unfortunately, yes you will. Thanks to the debacle that is Brexit, any UK drivers coming to Ireland after Dec 31 2020 will need to have a green card for insurance. Worth getting an international driving licence too...
Can I reclaim VAT paid on a UK import?
Hi,
I plan to buy a July 2020 car in the UK. I understand that I will pay Irish VAT along with the VRT and that I can reclaim the UK VAT from the UK government once the vehicle is registered in Ireland. Is this correct?
Many thanks
Gerry O'Brien
Gerry O'BRIEN (Ashbourne)Nov 2020 Filed under: importing
Expert answer
Hi Gerry,
Yes, that’s right. You need to fill out form VAT411, which allows a private individual — whether you are registered for VAT or not — to reclaim the VAT. However, there will be an extra cost involved — UK VAT is charged at 20 per cent, but Irish VAT is 21 per cent (temporarily)...
Is a converted camper cheap to tax?
Hi there,
I'm moving back to Ireland from UK with a 2006 VW Caravelle. I'm currently converting it to a campervan. Once it is converted would it then qualify to pay low motor road tax like the VW California? This is my only vehicle.
Many thanks!
Catherine Ireton (Falmer, Brighton)Nov 2020 Filed under: taxation
Expert answer
Hi Catherine,
Yes, it will do as long as you get the conversion done before you import the car. Camper vans pay the same 13.3 per cent of Irish market value in VRT as regular vans, which is helpful, but you will need to make sure that your Caravelle is signed off by a ’suitably qualified individual.’ In other words, if you’ve done the work yourself, you may need to get it inspected and approved by an official authority (a vehicle assessor who can check that it conforms to DVLA standards, for example) and make sure you have that paperwork with you when processing the import. Assuming that it passes muster in this regard, you’ll also qualify for cheap road tax — just €102 per annum for a camper van, regardless of size.
However, you do say that you’re ‘moving back to Ireland’ from the UK and bringing the car with you. That could mean that you’re exempt from paying any VRT, once you can show proof of ownership (tax and insurance) for at least six months, as well as proof of change of address. Have a look at the Revenue.ie page here.
