Can a farmer use the herd no. for CV tax?
Can a farmer still use their herd number instead of a VAT no. to avail of commercial vehicle tax rate on a 4x4 like a Toyota Land Cruiser or Hilux etc? This was the case in the past but has this changed?
Fintan Cassidy (Blessington)Jul 2020 Filed under: taxation
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Hi Fintan,
In theory, a herd number might be sufficient, but basically it’s down to the local motor tax office with which you’re dealing. Basically, there’s two threads here — the first is that the vehicle must be an appropriate one for commercial use, and the second is that you must show some sort of documentation that proves that you require the use of such a vehicle. We checked with the Department of Transport, and here’s the reply we received:
"Motor tax is based on both the construction and use of a vehicle. To be taxed as a goods vehicle, a vehicle must be constructed or adapted as a goods vehicle and must be used solely for the carrying of goods in the course of trade or business. Under Article 3 of the Road Vehicles (Registration and Licensing) (Amendment) Regulations 1992 (S.I. 385 of 1992), a licensing authority (motor tax office) must be satisfied that the licence (motor tax disc) being applied for is the appropriate licence for the vehicle concerned. It is open to the relevant motor tax office to seek whatever documentation it deems appropriate in support of an application for a particular rate of motor tax. In the case of an application for the goods rate of motor tax, such documentation may include a certificate of commercial insurance, a Tax Clearance Certificate, evidence of registration for tax or registration for VAT (if turnover for VAT exceeds the relevant thresholds set down by the Office of the Revenue Commissioners) or, at the discretion of the licensing authority, any other appropriate documentation that would indicate that the applicant is in trade or business. It is up to the individual concerned to provide whatever evidence is required by the licensing authority in order for it to be satisfied that the applicant is entitled to claim what is in effect a concessionary rate of tax."
Not VAT-registered: can I still get a van?
Hi,
I am driving a Volkswagen Polo at the moment, but I'm going to sell it as I am a carpenter, but get a lot of jobs on the side as well so I need a small van for tools and stuff. I am not VAT-registered so do I need a VAT number or can I just tax it anyway without it?
Thank you
Andrew Cahill, Clonmel, Tipperary
Andrew Cahill (Clonmel)Jul 2020 Filed under: taxation
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Hi Andrew,
In theory, you can register and tax a commercial vehicle without a VAT number, but it’s tricky. Generally speaking, you have to show that your business is registered for tax before you can apply for commercial rate motor tax, but there certainly have been individual cases of people explaining that they have a small business that’s not VAT-registered, but still need a van for their work, and the tax office has taken a lenient view. Your best bet is to fill in an RF111 form, use your PPS number instead of a VAT number and then explain your circumstances to your local motor tax office. And hope for the best.
VRT on a new Land Cruiser Utility import?
Hi,
Do you happen to know the VRT rate for a new Toyota Land Cruiser Utility two-door with two seats imported from the UK? I'm confused!
Thanks.
Leslie Barfoot (Magherafelt )Jul 2020 Filed under: VRT
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Hi Leslie,
I would double-check this with your local motor tax office, but in theory a Land Cruiser Utility will be charged at 13.3 per cent VRT of the Irish Open Market Selling Price. The short-wheelbase Land Cruiser retails at €43,950 new in Ireland, so it’s going to be a fair chunk of VRT, plus if it’s a new car you’ll have to pay the VAT on top of that.
VRT on this low-mileage motorcycle?
Hello,
I have bought a motorcycle in the UK (registered on 5th October 2016). According to the VRT website - if the bike has less than 6,000km on it - VAT is payable. The bike has 4,000km on it. I work in England (Monday - Friday), but not at the moment with COVID-19 - and am working for home. The bike is still in the UK with the dealer (I have paid for it but not collected it).
Thanks
Mark Kilroy (Galway)Jun 2020 Filed under: VRT
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Hi Mark,
Actually, the rules on this are a little unclear, because the examples given by Revenue don’t relate to a bike as old as yours with as little mileage. I think the best thing to do is to get onto your local motor tax office and check with them before making any decisions.
Do I have to alter an LCV to go private?
Are there any physical changes i.e. replacing missing seats for say NCT purposes in order to switch from crew cab to private? I presume the commercial tax test is the same as NCT?
Many thanks
Richard Spicer (Bray)Jun 2020 Filed under: commercial vehicle
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Hi Richard,
There are no issues in terms of seats etc if you want to run a commercial vehicle as a private car — it’s simply a change in the rate of tax that you pay, and all you have to do is talk to your local motor tax office. You’ll be charged a tax rate based on the cubic capacity of the engine. As for the NCT, you’ll still have to get the vehicle tested on the Light Commercial Vehicle test, every year. Even if it’s taxed privately, it needs that rather than an NCT.
What makes a vehicle a commercial?
What makes a vehicle "commercial"? Is it the type of vehicle or the individual owner's use of it? For example, if I buy a car-van simply because the large boot suits me, but the previous owner used it commercially and taxed, insured and tested it accordingly, what do I have to do to ensure it's considered a private vehicle when I buy it (taxed and insured that way, subject to NCT instead of CRW)? Is there any VAT issue with a private buyer purchasing a used commercially vehicle?
Owen Doyle (Dublin)Jun 2020 Filed under: commercial vehicle
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Hi Owen,
In terms of taxing a vehicle as a private car, there are no particular restrictions. All you have to do to tax a commercial vehicle as a private car is to let your local motor tax office know, and they’ll shift your tax to the old engine capacity system, instead of the flat-rate €333 annual commercial tax.
What makes a vehicle a ‘commercial’ is its original homologation (whether it’s classified as an N1 commercial vehicle, or an M1 passenger vehicle), but it’s entirely legitimate to tax an N1 commercial as a private car. However, even if you do so, it will still need to be tested, annually, under the Light Commercial Vehicle test, not the passenger car NCT. There’s no VAT issue in that you’ll pay the normal VAT rate when buying a commercial vehicle, but you won’t be able to claim back the VAT unless you’re using the vehicle for commercial purposes.
Can I import a Land Cruiser as commercial?
Hi there,
Wondering if you can clarify something for me about importing a Toyota Land Cruiser from the UK for commercial use in Ireland. Does the vehicle need to have been commercially registered in the UK, which I think is N1, before it can be imported and taxed as commercial in Ireland? I've tried searching for commercial vehicles in the UK but there are only a handful of vehicles listed whereas there are thousands of the same model vehicle (Toyota Land Cruiser) listed as having been privately registered.
Many thanks in advance
Ken
Ken O'Sullivan (Lahinch)Jun 2020 Filed under: commercial vehicle
Expert answer
Hi Ken,
It depends on what exactly we’re talking about here. If it’s a two-seat Land Cruiser with a cargo bay in the back, then Revenue should treat it as a purely commercial vehicle for VRT purposes, even if you later go on to tax it as a private vehicle. If, though, it’s a four-seat model that has been categorised as an N1 in the UK, Revenue won’t accept it as a van here anymore, and it’ll be charged at the full passenger car VRT rate.
Tax to import a Land Rover Defender?
I have a 2007 Land Rover Defender diesel 2.4 in the UK. I will be moving It to Ireland this summer; what will the taxation and import duty be?
Janice Taberer (Chelmsford)Jun 2020 Filed under: importing
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Hi Janice,
It depends when you bought it. If you bought it at least six months ago, and can show that it’s been taxed and insured for that period, plus you can show proof of transfer of residence, then there’s no import duty (Vehicle Registration Tax) to pay. When it comes to paying road tax, it depends on the model. If it’s a commercial vehicle, and used as a commercial vehicle, then it will cost €333 a year to tax. If it’s a commercial vehicle but used as a private car, then it will be €1,034 per year. If it’s a passenger model Defender, then with CO2 emissions of more than 225g/km, it’ll cost you €2,350 per year in motor tax.
How much to privately tax a Nissan Navara?
How much to tax Nissan Navara privately in Ireland for a year?
Patrick Cahill (Wicklow )Jun 2020 Filed under: taxation
Expert answer
Hi Patrick,
Assuming it’s the model of Navara with a 2.3-litre engine, then it’ll cost you €994 a year to tax — that’s because when taxing a commercial as a private car, you revert to the old by-engine-capacity tax system.
Questions about taxing a VW Caddy van...
Just wondering how much the tax would be on a 2016 2.0-litre Volkswagen Caddy van privately? Or how can I tax it commercially without a VAT number?
Thanks, Noel
Noel Peppard (Enniscorthy)Jun 2020 Filed under: taxation
Expert answer
Hi Noel,
A Caddy van with a 2.0-litre engine is going to cost you €710 per year to tax as a private vehicle. As for taxing it as a commercial, a VAT number isn’t an absolute requirement in and of itself, but you may be asked to provide proof of trading or a letter from Revenue showing that you are registered for tax as a business.
