How does the Toyota Verso stack up?
Hi,
In relation to a family car, I see you have high praise for the Qashqai+2. How would a 2009 Toyota Verso compare in terms of space, safety, price, etc? Many thanks and good luck with the site.
Brian Keane (Dublin 16)
May 2010 Filed under: choosing used car
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The reason we have talked about the Qashqai+2 a lot of late is that there seems to be quite a few people asking us about seven seats, but not really wanting an MPV. The Verso is an MPV, so as such is usually compared to its main rivals such as the Ford C-MAX and Renault Scenic.
Compared to the Qashqai+2, the Verso comes with a 2.0-litre diesel engine and the Qashqai+2 usually comes with a 1.5-litre diesel engine. The Verso has more power with 125hp against 104hp in the Qashqai+2. The Verso has faster acceleration (about two seconds faster to 100km/h from rest) and in terms of fuel economy the Verso again is slightly more frugal. The CO2 emissions in are both Band C, with road tax of €302. However the new Qashqai+2 does drop a tax band to Band B.
Both cars have five-star Euro NCAP safety ratings and come with multiple airbags. ESP (electronic stability control) is standard fit on both cars too. The rear-most row of seats would be more generous in the Verso compared to the Qashqai+2 even though they share an almost identical wheelbase. There is also more shoulder room in the second and third row of seats.
In terms of price, a 2009 Verso will cost you about €25,000 - €27,000, while a new Qashqai+2 will cost you from €30,450 for a new one and about €26,000 - €27,000 for a 2009 model.
Both have pretty poor luggage space with the rear-most seats in place, but loads with the third row folded, so it depends how often you intend using the seats.
I hope this helps.
Volkswagen Golf or SEAT Leon?
I am replacing a 2005 Ford Focus. In all that I have driven I find the Volkswagen Golf comes closest.
I have yet to try the SEAT Leon. How do you compare them? There are so many different styles and prices in both that it is confusing.
I want a post-2008 diesel, and a comfortable seat is a must! There is a new SEAT Leon 1.9-litre Sport Limited Edition 105hp diesel, Tax Band B, reduced by €2,000 to €19,900 or a new Golf 1.6 TDI diesel 105hp for €21,200. Is there much difference in running costs between a 1.6-litre and 1.9-litre?
Angela Osullivan (Wicklow)May 2010 Filed under: choosing new car
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Hello again Angela,
I know Shane answered your last question, but I think I can answer your follow up question. The Golf and Leon are quite similar; the Leon is definitely the prettier car and the Golf the more sensible. I know what you mean about the Leon range, as there are 17 different versions, which seems excessive.
The thing is with SEAT is that it tends to get the older technology from Volkswagen, so the Leon still has an older engine range, namely the 1.9-litre TDI, which is quite a noisy old engine. The 2.0-litre TDI is also available in the Leon, but at a higher cost.
The 1.6-litre 105hp engine in the Golf is a newer and cleaner engine, with better fuel economy. It hasn't made it to the Leon just yet, so the better engine is in the Golf right now.
In terms of running costs, the road tax is slightly less on the Golf, at €104 against the €156 in the Leon. The Golf has slightly better fuel economy (62.8mpg v 56.5mpg) but that is a relatively small difference.
That Leon is great value, but in terms of an investment I would be inclined to go with the Golf, as I would think the residual value will be better with the newer Golf with the newer engine.
Hope that helps
First car for a student?
I want a good first car. I am a female student. Can you help? My budget is between €1,000 - €2,000
Helen Ryan (Limerick)May 2010 Filed under: choosing used car
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Hello Helen
Thank you for your enquiry. In this instance, we are going to look on the website beepbeep.ie, because that is the official classified website of SIMI, the Society of the Irish Motor Industry. Because we are looking at something on a budget we want to get something with as much history on it and as much security as possible for you. On that site, all cars come with a history check and they are also covered by the consumer protection act.
A couple of things are important here. One is that your car is cheap and the second is that it will be reliable and I suppose, attractive would be good too?
You could never accuse it of being sexy, but this Nissan Micra on sale at a dealership in Drogheda has done 80,000 miles and has had only two owners. It will cost you just €1,550 and will be cheap to run, insure and service:
This Toyota Yaris from 1999 has done 130,000 miles and while that might sound like a lot, this little car is well able for it and this could be a decent little buy that won't cause you too much heartache:
How about this? A 1995 Opel Corsa, which has only done 18,466 miles and has an NCT until early next year. That will cost you just €1,250:
However, what I really think would be a great first car for you would be the Ford Ka, which is a great little runabout and still looks funky. This 1999 model has only covered 52,000 miles and has an NCT until 01/11. It is advertised at €1,850 but I reckon you could get it as a straight deal for a little less:
Let us know if any of these don't float your boat and we will put on our thinking caps again!
I want to change my Rav4 for a seven-seater, just not a boring one!
Hi, congrats on new website, hope it works well. I'm looking to change an '05 Toyota Rav 4 for a 7 seater, but don't want a boring looking rectangle type car! Any ideas for a decent 7 seater that looks good as well, maybe '07/'08, max spend €15k. Thanks.
Emer Kennedy (Dublin)May 2010 Filed under: choosing used car
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Hi Emer
As you know Toyota don't offer the Rav4 with seven seats in Ireland (but they do in the USA) so that is off the list.
We have spoken since and I now know you have a 2005 Toyota Rav4, petrol with 40,000 km on the clock, which is very low mileage. I would hope you would get about €6,500 - €7,000 for your Rav (perhaps even a bit more) as a trade-in against a new model and with the €15,000 on top of that to play with you have quite a few options.
The most obvious option for me, is the Nissan Qashqai+2. The Qashqai has been immensely popular and the +2 model adds extra seats to make it a seven seater. That only came on the market in 2009, so it might just not make your budget, but then again this depends on what you are offered for your Rav4. The cheapest of these is likely to cost around €25,000, so this might not be an option.
Never fear though, there are other good options. The Chevrolet Captiva was a lesser-known SUV that sold in small numbers but really was quite good and crucially, for you, came with seven seats. You should expect to pay about €17,000 for a 2007 one and you might even sneak into a 2008 for about €23,000.
http://www.carzone.ie/search/Chevrolet/Captiva/LT-VCDI-/201019198001210/advert?channel=CARS
Another good option would be the Mitsubishi Outlander. You could have a 7-seater one of those, with a 2.0-litre 140hp diesel engine and a 2007 one would cost you about €19,000, and a 2008 one would cost about €23,000.
This could be quite a nice solution actually
http://www.carzone.ie/search/Mitsubishi/Outlander/2.0-DI-D/201013197400203/advert?channel=CARS
The other thing you could do, is totally lord it up and get a Land Rover Discovery which has one of the most generous rear row of seats around. This 2006 model is under €20,000. Yes it will cost you an arm and a leg to run and service, but at least we are giving you your options.
http://www.carzone.ie/search/Land-Rover/Discovery/3-TDV6-S/201015197653184/advert?channel=CARS
I do hate to use the 'S' word, but if you did think of something more sensible, then you couldn't really pass the Ford S-Max. Of the MPVs of that type, this is the best of them and it looks good too. Here is a 2007 diesel with low mileage for €19,300, leaving you plenty of change.
http://www.carzone.ie/search/Ford/S-Max/1.8TDCI-/200928194542104/advert?channel=CARS
Anyway, I hope some of this helps, but feel free to come back to us with your thoughts.
Replacing an Almera under scrappage
I want to replace my ten year-old Nissan Almera and I am told the Nisssan Tiida is it's natural successor.
I've seen very few few on the roads and cannot find a test drive report on it. Do you have any info on this car please?
My budget is up to €20,000 as well as the scrappage allowance.
Pat O'Regan (Limerick)May 2010 Filed under: scrappage
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Hi Pat
The Nissan Tiida could probably be best described as an experiment that didn't really work in Ireland. Once Nissan had stopped production of the Almera, a car that was very popular in Ireland, Nissan were left with something of a gap in their product range. Rather than leaving this empty they took on the Tiida, which was a car that was sold in markets such as the Middle East, and as the Nissan Versa in the United States and in any market it was sold it was a budget buy.
There is nothing wrong with the Tiida, but it just isn't the most exciting car to drive or probably own and for that reason it has received a pretty lukewarm reception in Ireland.
There is €4,000 off the Tiida at the moment (including government allowance), so that means you would get the Tiida Diesel for €16,480. If you just want a car for getting from A to B then this will do the job perfectly fine.
However, the reason Nissan haven't been overly worried by the Tiida is that they have been selling shedloads of their Qashqai and that is a really excellent vehicle. It sits quite high up, is quite cheap to run and will be reliable. There is a new 2010 model too and there is a €4,000 scrappage offer on that too at the moment.
The Qashqai 1.5d XE costs €23,995 and with €4,000 off that you would be just about under budget and this would be an infinitely better buy than the Tiida, albeit a fair bit more expensive that the Tiida.
You can read our review of the new Qashqai here
http://www.completecar.ie/testdrives/article/Nissan/Qashqai/Qashqai/231/53
And details on the new Qashqai can be found at this part of the Nissan site
http://www.nissan.ie/new_vehicles/pricing.aspx?CarID=137
There are lots of other cars to consider with your budget
You could have a Hyundai i30, which is an excellent 5-door hatchback from €15,995 under the scheme.
The Ford Focus 1.6 Diesel would be well under your budget, or you could try the new Renault Fluence, if you fancied a saloon. Here is a review I did on it for The Irish Times recently http://tiny.cc/30ag3
I am not sure if any of these will float your boat, but please feel free to come back to us for more advice.
Out of this lot, I'd have the Qashqai though.
Which car should I buy under the scrappage scheme?
I am buying under the scrappage scheme. Which of the following would you recommend: Skoda Fabia, Ford Ka, Hyundai i10 or Renault Clio?
My budget is €10,000 and I want something that will last another 10 years! Most of my driving is around town but I don't want anything tiny!!
Thanks
Nell Rynne (Sligo)May 2010 Filed under: scrappage
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There is a relatively new version of the Fabia and that might not come in under budget, even with scrappage. The new model starts at €12,265 so with scrappage it would be €10,765, but if you could stretch to this it would be a very good buy.
The Ka will cost you just €7,995 under the scheme and this is great value for what is a smart little car, but it is small and only available as a three-door.
The Hyundai i10 is a car that is superb value under scrappage, costing just €8,495 for the five-door and €9,495 for the three-door model.
As regards the Clio, you can have a three-door for €8,990 under the scheme. A five-door model will cost more, at €11,280.
Out of these, for a car to keep for 10 years, I'd suggest you try to haggle and get the Fabia as I think it would age best, but following that it would be the i10 because this car should be ultra reliable to.
Without sitting on the fence though, I would say to try all of these and make your mind up after the test drive.
Audi A4 on a €7,000 budget?
Hi guys,
Im looking to buy a car with a budget of €7,000. I like the Audi A4 and my house mate is upgrading from his A4. It is an English import from 2003, with six-speed gearbox, cruise control, air conditioning and comes with a hands free Bluetooth kit for the mobile.
Mileage is 140,000 miles however and it's going for somewhere between €7,000 and €7,500. I travel a lot for sports, circa 20,000 miles per year. Is this car a good investment for €7,000-€7,500 or should I look for one with lower mileage?
Thanks
Barry Cox (Tullamore)May 2010 Filed under: choosing used car
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Hi there Barry
I know that it is very tempting to choose a large executive German car on a tight budget, but as someone who has done this a couple of times and has the empty bank account to prove it, I would tend to steer clear of something with this many miles on it because the problems will tend to start to emerge around about now and the repair bills are very high in most cases.
I know the car probably looks great and is running well, but if or rather when a huge issue comes up, like a clutch goes or you have a problem with the suspension, the price of parts and labour will be high and since you are adding 20,000 miles per year to what is already high mileage, this car is going to be worth virtually nothing in two years and you won't have a chance of trading it in.
From a quick look around the classifieds, you could buy something with half the mileage for about the same money, as there were a lot of these imported during the Celtic Tiger years and people are now trying to sell them on so the market is flooded.
Unless you are prepared to say goodbye to that €7,000 totally in two years, I would, either get an A4 with less miles or bite the bullet and buy something way more sensible, like a Ford Focus or VW Golf diesel that will put up with all those miles with minimum fuss.
Peugeot 5008 or Ford S-MAX?
I'm in the market for a seven-seater and considering either the Peugeot 5008 or Ford S-MAX. Was thinking of new Peugeot or second-hand S-MAX (based on old prices), but finding new S-MAX prices are confusing. Any thoughts of one over the other?
Karl Langan (Malahide)May 2010 Filed under: choosing new car
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Hi Karl, I have stuck my neck out already this year and said that I thought the new Peugeot 5008 was the best car in its class and for now I am sticking to that.
The 5008 feels well built and crucially is incredibly well priced and well equipped too. The 5008 starts at €26,870 for the SE version and, when you compare this to some of its key rivals, it's excellent value. There is only one engine choice though, which is the 110hp 1.6-litre diesel (HDi).
For €28,995 you get the SX, which gets cruise control, front fog lights, 16-inch alloys, sun blinds in row two, electric windows all round and a leather gear knob.
The new Ford S-MAX starts at €31,495 (not sure why Ford's site says it starts from €29,995 - it is confusing), which is a lot less than it used to cost and the updated model is pretty impressive too. You can have this with three different outputs of 115hp, 140hp and 160hp. The S-MAX is a better driver's car with better handling, but 5008 ticks all the boxes in terms of size and space and crucially is better value.
If you are sticking to a budget then I would say go for the Peugeot 5008 SE. However, since you seem to have narrowed it down to two cars, you should probably test drive both and decide for yourself.
What do you think of the new Mazda3?
What do you think of the new sporty Mazda3? I have a budget of €30k. What would you recommend new that would have enough boot space for golf clubs and comes with strong accessories like a roof rack or boot rack for carrying a racing bike?
Anthony Dowd (Cork)May 2010 Filed under: choosing new car
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Hi Anthony,
With a budget of €30,000 you can afford the most expensive five-door Mazda3 officially on sale in Ireland. It's called the Z-Sport and is powered by a 2.0-litre petrol engine with 151hp. It's priced at €29,495 plus the usual 'dealer related charges'.
You wouldn't have much left for accessories though...
Mazda's site shows what's available on that front (click here to go straight to the Mazda3 section). There are loads of roof attachments, including a Thule-made bicycle rack. Unfortunately there don't appear to be prices on the site for the accessories so you'll need to contact your local dealer.
Boot space for golf clubs won't be an issue.
If you'd like recommendations for alternatives to this Mazda please let us know in the comment box below and we'll see what we can find.
Bluemotion Golf worth buying?
Have you any information on the latest VW economy car Bluemotion. Is it as good as an ordinary Golf or better?
Joe McConville McConville (Wexford)May 2010 Filed under: choosing new car
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Hi Joe,
I recently drove the Golf BlueMotion and the review will go up shortly, but what I can say is that I was really very impressed by the car for a number of reasons. Obviously this is the full BlueMotion version and that differs slightly to the 'BlueMotion Technology' model that we have seen before.
This new car gets a full raft of eco measures. There is Stop/Start, regenerative braking, a modified radiator grille, low rolling resistance tyres and a specially tuned diesel engine. The result is emissions of 99g/km and fuel economy of 3.4 l/100km. Now, you would want to be really hyper-miling to get those figures but we got close to that on our few days with the car. The economy was really staggering.
There is 105hp from the 1.6-litre diesel and it isn't a rocket: 0-100km/h takes 11.3 seconds. It is however, a very nice car to drive. It doesn't feel slow because it is geared well. And it is a nice place to be. For the price, it is quite well equipped.
Obviously, price is an issue. There is no real incentive to buy this car for its emissions like there is in other markets. In some markets, such as the UK, if your car has less than 100g/km you don't pay road tax, but here everything under 120g/km is Band A and the Ford Focus 1.6 D Style will cost you about the same to run, yet is €1,545 cheaper to buy.
To answer your original question though, if I was buying a Golf, yes this is the one I would have (aside from the GTI of course). I really liked it.
You also have to look at the Skoda Octavia too. For €23,820 you could have an Octavia with the same engine, but with the DSG automatic transmission. Hope this helps, feel free to come back to us if you have any more questions.
