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Are my calculations right on importing this Honda?

Hi,

I've recently paid a substantial deposit on a car in Northern Ireland. (I/we live in Ireland). We bought a petrol car as the import charges are a lot less than diesel. I worked it out to be approximately €196 NOx charge and about €1,200 VRT. In total the cost of the car is under £3,000 Sterling. It is a 2012 Honda CR-V 2.0 petrol.

Can you please advise me urgently as I was going to collect my new car this weekend. If I’m being misled please let me know so I can try to stop the sale due to this discrepancy and get my refund back.

Thanks

Raymond O Callaghan (Slane)

Sep 2024 Filed under: importing

Expert answer

Hi Raymond,

Following on from our separate conversation, you've confirmed that car is on a Northern Ireland number plate, so I'd assume it has been used in the North by a private individual for quite some time. A quick check of the UK's MOT history service confirms the car was tested in the North since at least 2018.

You'll need documentation to prove all this on importation, but it would appear that you will not be liable for VAT or import duty on this car.

So then it's just VRT and the NOx levy.

It would appear that the NOx rating is 23mg/km, which means a bill of €150 if that's correct.

The CO2 rating appears to be 190g/km, though that would be on the old pre-WLTP system and it needs to be 'uplifted' by Revenue's calculations. That would bring it into the top band, at 41 per cent of the OMSP (Open Market Selling Price). The OMSP is the value Revenue believes the car to be worth on the Irish market, and it's not always an easy figure to guess accurately.

There don't see to be many similar cars on sale in Ireland now so our job is made more difficult by that. If you assume an OMSP of €12,000 as a worst case then VRT would be 41 per cent of that, at €4,920. Obviously, that final figure depends massively on the OMSP.

Hope that helps


Looking to buy a new small car for under €30,000.

I am looking to gift a car to my wife. With a range of 242 offers, I am inclined to buy a new one. She is still taking her driving lessons and needs hand controls to drive the car due to her foot disability.

She needs a small car with two mandatory features: an automatic transmission and adaptive cruise control. I have narrowed down some options with the budget I have for €30k, but confused what to consider: Suzuki Swift, Volkswagen Polo, Toyota Yaris Luna Hybrid, Dacia Sandero Stepaway or MG3 Hybrid? I am open to suggestions but it should have the two mandatory features.

Thanks

Ankit Gulati (Dublin)

Sep 2024 Filed under: choosing new car

Expert answer

Hi Ankit,

Let's go through your list for a start:

Suzuki Swift: Even the top-spec model with loads of options comes in under budget, has adaptive cruise control and can be had with an automatic gearbox. Easy to drive, well-specified, should be reliable, though doesn't feel as substantial as some of the other cars listed. Read our Suzuki Swift reviews here.

Volkswagen Polo: Only the Style and R-Line versions come with adaptive cruise control, but those are slightly out of budget if fitted with the DSG automatic gearbox so unless you stretch the budget this isn't an option. That's a shame as it's probably the best car in this list all things considered. Read our Volkswagen Polo reviews here.

Toyota Yaris: The 1.5-litre hybrid is an automatic by default, and as you've identified, the Luna comes with adaptive cruise control. It's the only version in the Yaris lineup within budget with those items and it's an excellent car. The rear seats aren't huge, but the fronts are fine, it drives fantastically, should be very reliable and the hybrid system is efficient and good to drive. Quite likely the pick of the cars here all things considered. Read our Toyota Yaris reviews here.

Dacia Sandero Stepway: An automatic gearbox is available, and even the most expensive version is well within budget, but this car can't be had with adaptive cruise control - only the non-adaptive type is fitted. Otherwise, it's a spacious and well-equipped car for the money. Read our Dacia Sandero reviews here.

MG3: All versions are automatic and come with adaptive cruise control, so those boxes are ticked. And even the most expensive version is within budget so it's a realistic possibility. It's the most powerful car here, which is probably not important, but it's quite efficient as well. The Yaris is a more polished product, but the MG has a little more space. Read our MG3 reviews here.

Hopefully that's all of help. I'd strongly recommend you and your wife go check out a shortlist of cars in person and test drive them to see which you prefer, as it will come down to personal preference.

Let us know which you go for.


Can you clarify importing an EV from the North?

I’m getting pretty confused even reading your guide on importing cars into Ireland from NI. I get that cars registered before 2021 are exempt from VAT and duty, but after that, are electric and hybrid vehicles also exempt from VAT and duty?

Matthew Pierce (Dublin)

Aug 2024 Filed under: importing

Expert answer

Hi Matthew,

The rules on VAT and import duty don't vary between different types of cars or powertrains.


Why ask if the car is Japanese on Revenue's site?

What is the significance of the ROS VRT Calculator question "Was the vehicle first registered in Japan"?

Brian M (Bray)

Aug 2024 Filed under: importing

Expert answer

Hi Brian,

It appears to change the list of cars below that question, presumably narrowing it to cars that were actually sold in Japan.


What to replace my VW Golf GTI with?

Hi,

I am in the process of changing my beloved Golf Mk 7.5 GTI but cannot decide what to go for! I have narrowed my search down to a Golf 8.5 R Black Edition, the new Audi S3 Vorsprung or a BMW 340i xDrive. The latter will need to be a six-month-old car rather than new to fit within  my budget. All are great cars! Which one of those three would the CompleteCar.ie team go for?

Love your YouTube videos btw - have used them a lot for my search.

Many thanks!

Paul

Paul James (Belfast)

Aug 2024 Filed under: choosing new car

Expert answer

Hi Paul,

I asked Dave and Neil on the team to answer this as well as myself so you get a cross-section of opinion. Here's what Neil said: "There’s no point in going for the Audi over the Golf. Sure, it has more power and 4WD but it’s no more fun to drive, and will be more expensive to run. The GTI is the better of those two. However, the M340i — Touring especially — is one of the best BMWs that has ever been made, and I reckon if you have the chance to own one, you should take it. "

Dave was in agreement: "I’m with Neil on this one, the move to the Audi or the Golf 8.5 R from the Golf 7.5 isn’t going to deliver as much overall fun, even if the performance figures increase. The BMW is not only a lovely thing, but it’s a different style and should be much sweeter overall. "

I have to admit, I'd agree with them both. The S3 is good, but very subtle, perhaps too subtle? The 8.5 GTI is notably changed from the 7.5 (I'm the only one of us that has driven it so far and it's a cracker), but even so, I'd find it difficult to ignore the allure of the BMW's six-cylinder engine and rear-lead chassis balance.

Do let us know which way you go on this.


When to change my BMW 420d's chain?

When is my BMW 420d timing chain due? It is a 2014 BMW 420d F32 M Sport with 216,000km. It is regularly serviced and there is no rattling noises coming from the engine or anything.

Tommy Whyte (Portlaoise)

Jul 2024 Filed under: servicing

Expert answer

Hi Tommy,

There is no recommended replacement schedule for the timing chain on that car - or on most cars really. If it's not noisy and the car is running well, plus you regularly service it, then there shouldn't be anything to worry about. 


Can I import this car from the North without duty and VAT?

I am considering buying a car in Northern Ireland. The car was originally a UK vehicle but was imported/registered in the North since Apr 2023. Would duty and VAT be owed on this vehicle or would the '90-day rule' apply?

Thanks.

Peter Dennison (Kildare)

Jul 2024 Filed under: importing

Expert answer

Hi Peter,

Revenue's rules are complicated, but our interpretation of them suggests that car would attract duty and VAT on importation south. The '90-day rule' applies to cars brought into the North after 1 May 2023.


I want to sell my 2018 Nissan X-Trail...

I have a 2018 X-Trail that I'm changing for a camper van. What's it worth in Ireland and how do I go about selling it?

Mike Walker (Weymouth)

Jul 2024 Filed under: used car values

Expert answer

Hi Mike,

Without any more information than that it's difficult to estimate your car's value. For example, there are 2018 X-Trails for sale on Carzone.ie ranging in asking price from about €20,000 to not far off €30,000. Take a look on there and try to find a selection of cars close to yours in terms of specification and mileage for an estimate. 

And we'd recommend Carzone.ie as well to sell your car. If you're buying the camper from a dealer they may take the X-Trail as part-exchange, but you'll get more for it selling it privately. 


Porsche Macan 4 or Audi Q6 e-tron?

I am considering purchasing either an Audi Q6 e-tron or Porsche Macan 4. Which would you advise?

Sean Cotter (Newtownmountkennedy)

Jul 2024 Filed under: choosing new car

Expert answer

Hi Sean,

I drove the Macan 4 at its international launch (read that review here) and today the Audi Q6 e-tron on Irish roads so I can have a stab at comparing them, though bear in mind that both were high-spec cars. The Q6 e-tron I tested was the quattro model using the same two electric motors as the Macan 4, as well as the 100kWh (95kWh of which is usable) battery so these are quite comparable.

The Audi had loads of options though, including air suspension, so that undoubtedly alters how it drives. On that note, the Audi is a little more comfortable than the Porsche, but a little less involving and slower to respond to steering inputs and accelerator inputs. Both are very quiet, refined and smooth to drive, with the Audi slightly better in that regard. The Porsche has fractionally better 'blending' of the friction brakes and recuperation via the motors.

There's nothing to choose between them in terms of range, efficiency and charging capabilities.

Somewhat surprisingly, the Macan 4 has a marginally bigger boot and extra storage under the bonnet included in the price, while you have to pay Audi more to get the 'frunk' insert in the Q6. The rear seats of the Audi feel more spacious, however, than the Macan's.

The cabins are vastly different, but both of very high quality. I prefer the perfectly round steering wheel in the Porsche.

Finally, pricing: the comparable Audi is cheaper than the Porsche and there are more affordable versions of the Q6 e-tron - one with a smaller battery, another with rear-wheel drive - that there are no equivalents to in the Macan lineup.

So as you can see, no clear 'winner' as there are too many variables at work, but hopefully this helps you choose which is for you and your budget. 

Do let us know which one you go for. Both are lovely.


Is it worth importing a Velar from the North?

Can you please advise on the various types of costs that are required to import a car from Northern Ireland to the Republic?

I am currently looking at two different cars with different backgrounds:

Car 1: 2021 Range Rover Velar, first registered in UK April 2021 now on sale in Northern Ireland with UK registration plates. Dealer has said he can get it registered in NI and sell with NI registration plates.

Car 2: 2021 Range Rover Velar, car built in UK and first registered in NI Feb. 2021 i.e. is currently on NI registration plates.

I have read as much documentation as I can find on the 'potential costs' but have come away more confused than informed. It was verbally mentioned to me whilst researching this, that if a car has been registered in NI for a period of more than 60 or 90 days (I cannot remember which) then the car is exempt from VAT and only subject to NOx and VRT.

Can you please let me know if this is correct?

I would appreciate any help you can afford me on this as calling the National VRT helpline has not been helpful and I was advised to take the car to my nearest NCT centre, however by doing this, I would have bought a vehicle and would be completely unaware of its taxes.

Before buying a vehicle, I need to know the cost of taxes to establish if its expenditure is worthwhile.

Deirdre Grouden (Castledaly)

Jul 2024 Filed under: importing

Expert answer

Hi Deirdre,

Yes, we have to agree - the whole process is completely over-complicated and difficult to understand at times. And it would appear some of the rules allow for real grey areas.

For example, according to Revenue: "There are no customs obligations for a vehicle that has been brought into Northern Ireland after 1st May 2023 and where the vehicle has been in private ownership in Northern Ireland for a reasonable period of time." This would suggest that Car 1 in your question would attract VAT and import duty if it has actually not been used by a private individual. I.e. it has been imported by a dealer to sell on. It doesn't matter how long it has been in the country if it is sitting on a dealer forecourt and switching it to NI plates before selling it to you doesn't change that.

Car 2 would also, we believe, attract VAT and import duty. The 'made in the UK' thing is tricky as you need to prove it yourself and it comes down to more than just the factory the car was made in - it depends on its components as well.

Sounds like you've read a lot already, but you want our take on it, look at our Guide to importing a car from Northern Ireland.