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Can I tax an SUV private, but insure it as LCV?

Is it possible to tax an SUV privately, whilst insured commercially? To use privately with kids etc outside of work hours?

Alan O Brien (Dublin)

Jan 2020 Filed under: commercial vehicle

Expert answer

Hi Alan,

No. You’ll need to show proof of insurance when you tax the vehicle so if you’re taxing it privately, but insuring it as a commercial, then alarm bells might well be raised. Also, if you did have an accident and your insurance company found out that you were playing both sides of the system, you’d probably have your claim denied. 


Trying to get insured on a 2004 Golf...

Hi,

I am a 21-year-old female with a provisional licence and looking to get insured on a car. I have been asking insurance companies and they have given me quotes of roughly €3,000 on a 2004 Volkswagen Golf. Am I better off buying a newer car? Will this bring down the price of insurance?

Alannah C (Dublin)

Dec 2019 Filed under: insurance

Expert answer

Hi Alannah,

Probably not much, no, though insurers seem to be wary of cars over 10 years old. Saying that, when you’re under 30 and on a provisional, you’re the risk factor, not the car. Keeping the engine size as small as possible will help (closer to 1.0-litre is better), but it won’t make a huge difference. 


Considering a Ford Ranger Raptor...

Just wondering. I'm looking at buying the Ford Ranger Raptor through the company. Commercial vehicle, registered to the company etc. Insurance through company fleet policy. Can I avail of five per cent VRT for pickup truck simelar to that of van BIK and am I ok to carry passengers when using it for personal use? I'm thinking yes, could you have the answer as I'm not sure.

Trevor Ecock (Dublin)

Dec 2019 Filed under: commercial vehicle

Expert answer

Hi Trevor,

We’re not sure about the five per cent VRT BIK rate, as that will depend on your personal circumstances and how the vehicle is paid for and registered. Better to ask your company accountant that one. As for being OK to carry passengers for personal use, yes you can, but you’ll have to register it as a private car and tax it as such (which could be tricky if you’re trying to get the van rate BIK) and you’ll have to make sure that your insurance covers it for social/domestic/pleasure use as well as work.


Looking for European insurance for 30 days.

Hi,

Do you know of any insurance companies that will provide comprehensive cover for driving in Europe for more than thirty days?

Thanks

Philip

Philip Donegan (Ballina)

Dec 2019 Filed under: insurance

Expert answer

Hi Philip,

It depends on what you’re doing. Are you taking your own car to Europe? In that case, contact your current insurer as cover generally extends to the rest of Europe, and you may only have to pay a small ’top-up’ fee to make sure that the cover is comprehensive, and lasts for more than 30 days.

If you’re renting a car, then insurance is included, and you can always pay extra to expand the cover to fully comprehensive. While car rental agencies charge a proverbial arm and leg for this, there are independent insurers who will add-on the extra cover for a reasonable fee. 


I'll be transporting horses...

Hi,

I am looking into purchasing a vehicle for transporting horses (have the EB licence) and would like to know more about taxes for suitable vehicles for private use. If I were to purchase a Toyota Hilux, what tax bracket does it come under? If I were to look at a horse lorry (would have to get the licence) what tax do they come under if it's for private use vs commercial? Would be looking at a small lorry up to 7.5 tonne (max including load). Also, do you have an idea of rough costs of insurance for these vehicles?

Thanks

Clare Gallagher (Ballina)

Nov 2019 Filed under: commercial vehicle

Expert answer

Hi Clare,

A Hilux has a 2.4-litre engine (well, the current one does, but remember that older versions had 3.0-litre units) so if you want to tax it as a private vehicle that’s going to be €1,034 per year for motor tax. I’m pretty sure you can’t register and tax a horse lorry for private use as it’s over the 3,500kg limit for private cars. The tax therefore would be the commercial rate of €333 per year. As for insurance, that’s probably more down to you and your own driving record than it is to the vehicle, but the good news is that there are specialist horse lorry insurers, such as Wexford Insurance, who would probably be able to give you a good quote. 


How much to tax an L200 for private use?

I want to buy a 2014 Mitsubishi L200 for private use in Ireland; how much is it for tax with private insurance

Thank you.

Ultan Francis (Athlone )

Oct 2019 Filed under: taxation

Expert answer

Hi Ultan,

When you tax a commercial vehicle as a private car, it means you revert to the old by-engine-capacity tax system, so with a 2.5-litre engine, a 2014 L200 is going to cost you €1,080 a year in road tax.


How best to get insurance after 10 years?

I have a full Irish licence, but have not driven in 10 years. However, my licence has no endorsements or bands; what is the best way to get the cheapest insurance or who is the best insurer to explain my case to? Any help would be much appreciated. I'm living in Dublin.

Brendan Donovan (Ireland)

Sep 2019 Filed under: insurance

Expert answer

Hi Brendan,

I think your best bet is to find a good local insurance broker, who may be able to find you a particular deal or provider who can help. If you try and just ring around, you’re going to run into a brick wall as you have no recent insurance in your name, nor any named driver experience. It’s probably going to be expensive, either way, I’m afraid...


Do I need a van AND a car?!

Hi there,

I am looking to get a van. I wish to use it for commercial purposes as I am a fitness instructor and need to transport gear around. Also for personal use. It seems that I can ONLY use the van for commercial purposes and am denied insurance if it is for personal use as well. It seems unnecessary, and is an unfeasible cost, getting a car for personal use and the van for work. I cannot fit the work gear in a car, hence the need for a van. Any advice would be great!

Thanks a mill!

Aime Perkins (Ireland)

Aug 2019 Filed under: commercial vehicle

Expert answer

Hi Aime,

As ever, welcome to the wonderful world of Irish car insurance… You’re totally within your rights to be able to use a van as a private car, and actually you’re doing the right thing by registering it for private use, and informing your insurer. Many people just break the law by driving a commercial for private use without ever paying the extra tax or informing their insurer. If you’re struggling to find cover, I would track down a good local broker — they’re usually much more clued into the market than the call-centre staff of insurance firms, and can often find deals that we mere mortals can’t.


Can I buy a commercial for private use?

I want to buy a 3.0-litre Toyota Hilux or Mitsubishi L200 vehicle, for the purpose of transporting horse and ponies by horsebox. I have a herd number as I am the owner of several equines and have my premises registered. Can I buy the above models, as commercial vehicles, but get private motor tax and insurance on them, as I do not have a business or trade and am using the vehicle for recreational use? I can't seem to get any answers or details from tax office.

Thanks.

Jane, Co. Galway

Jacinta MCarthy (Galway)

Aug 2019 Filed under: commercial vehicle

Expert answer

Hi Jacinta,

Yes, you can. Anyone can buy a commercial vehicle and take advantage of the lower rates of VRT — that’s fine. The only tricky part comes, as you rightly point out, when it comes to taxing them. Then you have to tax the vehicle as a private car, and that means (for some bizarre reason) reverting to the old  by-engine-capacity tax, which obviously is going to be a bit pricey for a 3.0 Hilux. Maybe consider a 2.0-litre turbo VW Amarok, as that will bring down your annual motor tax bill considerably. 

Read this for more: Buying a commercial vehicle for private use


Could I afford to insure a 1.9 diesel?

Hi,

I am looking to buy myself a new car soon enough. I am simply waiting to have a full year on my insurance. I got insured on a 1.6-litre petrol Audi A3 Sportback, as my first car, with Axa insurance. The quote was around €3,700. I am looking for a diesel this time and I am wondering what kind of quotes I could be expecting if I try to get insured on a 1.9 diesel this time? There aren't many 1.6 diesel cars around that I would like to get.

Thanks!

Kris M (Dublin)

Jul 2019 Filed under: insurance

Expert answer

Hi Kris,

The problem is that Irish insurers are a bit blunt-force when it comes to deciding their rates, and generally speaking (and completely erroneously) they simply tend to go by engine size. So even though there are plenty of older 1.9-2.0-litre diesel engines with similar power outputs to a more modern 1.6, they’ll probably quote you more just because it’s a bigger engine. Stupid, but then that pretty much sums up the insurance industry in Ireland. All I can suggest is either biting the bullet and getting a 1.6 that maybe you’re not as keen on, or finding a really good local broker who can help you track down quotes that us mere mortals can’t find. 


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