VAT situation on importing from UK?!
Probably done to death but I can't see anything concrete stated as I trawl the sites. All I can see is "you may be liable for VAT," but no clarity on what conditions will change that "may" to a "will". From the latest guidance I could find on Revenue's website for a private buyer buying used car (>6,000 miles) from a UK (VAT-registered) trader that I could see (snippet below) my understanding would be that I could buy from a UK dealer (a VAT-registered one) and import paying VRT (and the NOx levy) as normal but without any VAT liability.
I can't see clear guidance on import duties, but assume that 10 per cent is valid on entry. Any expert knowledge out there that can clarify why I'm (likely) wrong?
10.1 Purchase of second-hand vehicles by a private individual from a person in another country
Where a private individual purchases a second-hand vehicle from a VAT-registered trader, including a motor dealer, in another country
Where a private individual purchases a second-hand vehicle from a motor dealer or any VAT-registered trader in another country, the price will generally include any VAT or other tax chargeable in that country. This VAT cannot be reclaimed. There is no VAT liability in Ireland. In respect of VRT, the owner of the vehicle must make a booking with an NCTS Centre within 7 days of the vehicle entering the State and registration must be completed within 30 days of the vehicle entering the State. The VRT liability can be calculated using the VRT Calculator on the Revenue website.
John Scmidt (Dublin)Feb 2021 Filed under: importing
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Hi John,
In theory you might be right, and we suspect that there won’t be 100 per cent clarity on this issue until there have been further negotiations between the EU and the UK, or a case is tested in court. The problem is, of course, that with the UK now being a ’third country’ post-Brexit, you could possibly claim back the VAT from the UK authorities on the car’s exit from the UK. You’d most likely have to do that after you’ve paid your VRT and VAT in Ireland, and the paperwork would doubtless be monstrous.
Might be worth a try, though.
Is my dad's GTR exempt from VRT?
Hi,
My dad is thinking about moving to Ireland for good from a different European country and he would like to bring his left-hand-drive 2015 Nissan GT-R with him. He has owned the car for over eight months now. Would he be exempt ftom VRT, VAT and duty charge? It's hard to calculate the VRT on this car but I think it could be around €30k?!
Thanks, Paul
Paul Mikolajczyk (Galway)Feb 2021 Filed under: VRT
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Hi Paul,
Yes, VRT on a GT-R would be monstrous, appropriately enough for a car known as ‘Godzilla.’ Happily, yes, if your dad is permanently moving to Ireland, and can demonstrate proof of his new address and residency, then he’ll be exempt from VRT and the car is too old now to incur any VAT charges.
Do I have the new Brexit import rules right?
Hi,
I usually change car every three years and I buy in the UK and import, usually Audi A6 diesel ultra. With the changes just so I’m right, emissions will have gone up, also VAT will be applicable on top of VRT now? Also, this applies only from the UK? If you buy a Belfast car it’s VRT and emissons, no VAT, is that correct?
Thanks
Fran
Fran Duffy (Kells Meath)Feb 2021 Filed under: importing
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Hi Fran,
You have it in a nutshell there, except the UK is defined as including Northern Ireland. Just be careful of the details. Such as NOx levy regardless of where you import it from. And there's also custom duty if you buy from England, Scotland or Wales, but not the North. Oh, and this is all assuming we're talking about a car that's older than six months old and has more than 6,000km on the clock, as otherwise that's classed as new and there is a VAT complication coming from the North.
Read our Guide to Importing Cars from the UK for more
VRT on motorbikes for 2021 on?
How does VRT work for importing second hand motorbikes from the UK in 2021? Can't find information anywhere.
Thanks, Daniel
Daniel B (Dublin)Jan 2021 Filed under: importing
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Hi Daniel,
The VRT bit of importing a motorbike works the same as before in that you’re charged €2 for each cubic centimetre of engine capacity up to 350cc, and €1 for each cc above that. That charge is then discounted by ten per cent for bikes between three months and one year old, 20 per cent for one-to-two years, 40 per cent for two-to-three years, 50 per cent for three-to-four years, 60 per cent for four-to-five years, 70 per cent for five-to-seven years, 80 per cent for seven-to-ten years, 90 per cent for ten-to-30 years, and is totally waived once the bike is 30 years old or older.
The new charges are, of course, import duty and VAT. VAT will be charged at 21 per cent, regardless of age, and there will be a ten per cent import duty (based on the price you paid and the cost of transport and delivery) unless more than 55 per cent of the original value of the parts used to build the bike originated in the UK.
Why so expensive to import this Civic?
Hi,
I just got a shocking price trying to import a 2005 Honda Civic EP3, a UK car. Before Xmas it was €1,200 even on the 1st of January through the VRT calculator. My car and engine was on the calculator and then removed. I purchased but didn't collect on 28th of December 2020. It has 105,000 miles on it and NOx of 0.028 gram and I was quoted €4,575 VRT - it costs more than the car did.
I know a person in my area who just bought a Premium Edition 2005 with 120,000 miles and late fee of €600 and he cleared his for €3,040. Why am I being charged more and as I did buy it last year it should still be on last year's rate. It was delivered on 5th of Jan to me and could not get VRT appointment until 19th of Jan.
Thanks
Dec
Declan Mccormack (Sligo)Jan 2021 Filed under: importing
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Hi Declan,
Unfortunately, this is the way things have gone now. Revenue were being relatively generous (relatively is of course a relative term…) in the first couple of weeks of January for people who’d imported in December and been unable to get an inspection date until January, but that grace period seems now to have passed.
Given that the car didn’t come into your possession until after Jan 1st, I don’t think they’ll give you a break on it, I’m afraid, and of course it’s not that you’re paying extra in VRT (although you are, a little, of course thanks to the switch to WLTP emissions), you’re actually paying extra in VAT and import duty thanks to Brexit. I wish I could give you better news, but these are the perils of importing a car.
VRT and price to import an Aston DB9?
What is the likely VRT on an Aston Martin DB9: 2005 from both the UK and Northern Ireland?
Thanks
Desmond Hayes (Limerick )Jan 2021 Filed under: importing
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Hi Desmond,
OK, while the DB9 is a tricky car to value (mostly because there aren’t that many for sale in Ireland), let’s take €50,000 as a ballpark. If you’re bringing one down from Northern Ireland, it’s pretty straightforward — you’ll pay 37 per cent VRT, which will come to around €18,500. Ish. That’s assuming Revenue agree with our finger-in-the-air valuation.
If you’re bringing it in from the rest of the UK, then there’s going to be 21 per cent VAT on top of that (€10,500 again assuming our €50,000 guess is about right) plus the NOx levy of €600 and then, finally, the ten per cent customs duty, which will be calculated on the actual price paid for the car (not the notional Irish value as for the VRT and VAT) plus whatever shipping and delivery expenses you incurred.
The good news is that DB9 prices have actually dipped below £30,000 in the UK (although you’ve got to be careful buying at that price level) so there are bargains to be had. The best thing to do would be to get in touch with the guys at Aston Martin Belfast who could give you a much more precise steer on the whole thing.
Is a crew-cab van taxed like an SUV now?
Are the crew cab vans now in the same bracket as the business edition SUVs? For example I’m looking at buying a crew cab Mercedes Vito Mixto. It has the seats in the back but it does has a separate compartment for the back of the van for carrying tools and goods etc. Do you know if this is true? Would the VRT rate not be in the commercial bracket and would it have to be classed as a private vehicle then with the higher rate of motor tax?
Paul Tynan (Kilcormac Offaly. )Jan 2021 Filed under: taxation
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Hi Paul,
In theory, all crew-cab vans fall into Category B for VRT purposes, which Revenue defines as: "commercial vehicles, designed and constructed for the carriage of goods and not exceeding 3.5 tonnes. These vehicles are European category N1 and generally have three seats or less. VRT Category B also includes motor caravans.”
In Category B, you’ll be charged 13.3 per cent of the OMSP, the Irish market selling price as defined by Revenue. There are some vans that fall into a slightly different category, and are charged a flat rate of €200, but these are vans that (a) always had less than four seats and (b) have at any time a laden mass greater than 130% of the mass in service. You should be able to find out which category your Vito fits into by quoting the VIN number when booking your VRT inspection.
Worth importing a used pick-up from North?
Hi,
I need a pick up for work, am self-employed. Is it worth buying a second hand one in the North, probably spending about €6-8k, and bringing it down? Just wondering about VRT/NOx levy/VAT etc.
Thanks
Len Naughton (Kildare)Jan 2021 Filed under: importing
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Hi Len,
Short answer: yes. If you’re buying used from the North, then you’re avoiding the ten per cent customs duty and the 21 per cent VAT on used vehicles.
How about importing a van to make a camper?
What's the tax/VRT situation with buying a second hand van from the North and bringing it down south? I want to convert it to a camper and want to put Irish plates on it.
Thanks
James Moreton (Ennis)Jan 2021 Filed under: importing
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Hi James,
Basically, the situation is as before — as long as the van is older than six months old or has more than 6,000km on the clock, then you’ll pay the usual VRT at 13.3 per cent of the OMSP (the Irish market price as defined by Revenue). As it’s from the North, you’ll also avoid the ten per cent customs duty. Once you do get the camper conversion done, the good news is that motor tax for a camper is only €102 a year.
Post-Brexit, moving from the UK to Ireland...
Hi,
I arrived in Ireland from the UK on Jan 14 to live permanently. I bought a second hand Hyundai Santa Fe in the UK last June. So owned it now for seven months and I want to keep it. I was previously exempt from VRT/NOx tax, but has Brexit changed anything?
All my forms etc are with Revenue so am waiting to hear from them.
James Mortuin (Ennis)Jan 2021 Filed under: importing
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Hi James,
You SHOULD be able to bring your car in with you without paying VRT or VAT, as, according to Revenue: “You may be able to claim relief from Customs Duty and Value-Added Tax (VAT). This relief applies to imports of the following: bicycles and motor cycles, private cars, trailers, caravans, pleasure craft and private aeroplanes." VRT would be waived, normally, for a transfer of residence. You’ll need to have all your paperwork in order, and you can bet that Revenue will be checking carefully to make sure no-one is trying to pull a fast one, but you should be OK.