Are my calculations right on importing this Honda?
Hi,
I've recently paid a substantial deposit on a car in Northern Ireland. (I/we live in Ireland). We bought a petrol car as the import charges are a lot less than diesel. I worked it out to be approximately €196 NOx charge and about €1,200 VRT. In total the cost of the car is under £3,000 Sterling. It is a 2012 Honda CR-V 2.0 petrol.
Can you please advise me urgently as I was going to collect my new car this weekend. If I’m being misled please let me know so I can try to stop the sale due to this discrepancy and get my refund back.
Thanks
Raymond O Callaghan (Slane)Sep 2024 Filed under: importing
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Hi Raymond,
Following on from our separate conversation, you've confirmed that car is on a Northern Ireland number plate, so I'd assume it has been used in the North by a private individual for quite some time. A quick check of the UK's MOT history service confirms the car was tested in the North since at least 2018.
You'll need documentation to prove all this on importation, but it would appear that you will not be liable for VAT or import duty on this car.
So then it's just VRT and the NOx levy.
It would appear that the NOx rating is 23mg/km, which means a bill of €150 if that's correct.
The CO2 rating appears to be 190g/km, though that would be on the old pre-WLTP system and it needs to be 'uplifted' by Revenue's calculations. That would bring it into the top band, at 41 per cent of the OMSP (Open Market Selling Price). The OMSP is the value Revenue believes the car to be worth on the Irish market, and it's not always an easy figure to guess accurately.
There don't see to be many similar cars on sale in Ireland now so our job is made more difficult by that. If you assume an OMSP of €12,000 as a worst case then VRT would be 41 per cent of that, at €4,920. Obviously, that final figure depends massively on the OMSP.
Hope that helps
Costs to import a 2018 campervan?
I'd like to import a 2018 campervan...
If I were to import a campervan, what are the payments I would need to think about: VRT, NOx, customs, VAT? How could I know for sure before importing a campervan what value would be considered OMSP because from Irish sites the prices seem to be very varied, which is a problem.
Cait NiRiain (Dublin)Sep 2024 Filed under: importing
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Hi Cait,
VRT is 13.3 per cent of the Open Market Selling Price (OMSP), but unfortunately there's no way to accurately predict that ahead of time, especially for campers as there is such variation in the market. You can appeal a valuation after the VRT has been paid, which isn't very helpful.
Campers are not subject to the NOx levy, you'll be glad to know.
However, if the camper is coming from outside the EU (including England, Scotland and Wales), you will also be liable for 23 per cent VAT and 10 per cent import duty. In most cases, campers imported from Northern Ireland do not attract these taxes, but only if they've been registered and used by private owners in the North before you buy it.
I'd like to import a 2018 campervan...
I would like to import a lovely UK converted campervan that's a 2018 Mercedes Sprinter long van, with probably about 100k on the clock. How much would I expect to pay to import it? Will it be Band 20 or 13.3 per cent VRT? What's the OMSP of that vehicle? Is it the base van or the random price for a camper on DoneDeal?
Cait NiRiain (Dublin)Sep 2024 Filed under: importing
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Hi Cait,
If it's a properly certified conversion then VRT should be just 13.3 per cent of the Open Market Selling Price (OMSP). That OMSP is what Revenue believes the vehicle is worth in its current state on the Irish market, so not the base van.
One thing to watch out for: if the car is coming from England, Wales or Scotland then you are likely to be liable for VAT and import duty as well as the VRT.
Looking to import a VW ID.3...
Hi, looking to import a 2022 Volkswagen ID.3 with 12,000 miles on the clock. It was owned and registered to a garage in the North.
The VRT Calculator indicates a zero charge on both VRT and NOx. My question is regarding the VAT, as the vehicle is registered to a garage, rather than a private individual, and zero VAT has been paid. The garage have agreed to give me an invoice to show I would have paid the the 23 per cent VAT on the purchase price. My understanding from talking to VRT office, because it is registered to a garage it will have paid zero VAT, so I will have to pay it here in the south. Where as if it was a private individual the VAT would have been paid in the North at the time of purchase.
Am I liable for VAT on it here in the South? Any advice or help appreciated thanks.
Des Minihan (Ennis)Sep 2024 Filed under: importing
Expert answer
Hi Des,
Yes, our understanding of the rules would suggest the same, that you will be liable for 23 per cent VAT and 10 per cent import dutyon registering the car in the Republic.
Why ask if the car is Japanese on Revenue's site?
What is the significance of the ROS VRT Calculator question "Was the vehicle first registered in Japan"?
Brian M (Bray)Aug 2024 Filed under: importing
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Hi Brian,
It appears to change the list of cars below that question, presumably narrowing it to cars that were actually sold in Japan.
Can I get around import VAT and duty like this?
Regarding the importing of vehicles, you mentioned that the vehicle must be registered to an NI owner for a reasonable amount of time. Now, if I personally buy a vehicle in England and register it in Northern Ireland (meets Windsor Framework) does it mean if I keep it for three months I can register it myself and get VAT free in Ireland? I have read about the transfer of residence (TOR) which requires six months of vehicle ownership. If I prove that the vehicle was in use in NI and registered for a reasonable time by myself though, would I be eligible?
Boom Shak (Belfast)Aug 2024 Filed under: importing
Expert answer
Hi there,
If you live in the North and then move to the South with that car in that way, then I don't see why not, though you'd still be liable for VRT and the NOx levy of course.
As ever, we advise readers to talk through unusual cases directly with Revenue before committing to bringing a car in.
Is this BMW exempt from VAT and duty on import?
Looking at 2024 BMW 5 Series on sale by Northern Ireland main BMW dealer. The car is still on an English plate and was registered in England in January 2024. It has covered 7,000km from new. The dealer has it in Northern Ireland for four months. The dealer tells me that because the car has been in Northern Ireland for a reasonable period of time I can import it into ROI without paying VAT and duty (VRT only).
I thought that a car had to be in private ownership in Northern Ireland to be exempt from VAT and duty. This car has never been in private ownership since it arrived in Northern Ireland.
Liam Connolly (Letterkenny)Aug 2024 Filed under: importing
Expert answer
Hi Liam,
Our understanding is that the car needs to be in private use too. Read our Guide to importing a car from Northern Ireland for more, though this excerpt, a quote from Revenue, might be of interest:
"Revenue will consider that a vehicle has been imported to NI in accordance with the Windsor Framework where a copy of the import declaration lodged in NI, or proof that the vehicle has been in private use in NI for a reasonable period of time, is provided as part of the VRT process. What is considered to be a reasonable period of time, for the purposes of private use, depends on the facts and circumstances of each case."
I won a 2010 Shogun!
I won a 2010 Mitsubishi Shogun 3.2. It was first registered in Nothern Ireland in March 2010 and as far as I can make out it remained there until it was delivered to me a few days ago.
What do I do next? We want to take the back seat out of it. Do I need an engineer report after I take out the seats, before I bring it to the NCT centre? And do I need to get a letter from Lucky Day competitions to say I won it?
Anita Jackson (Schull)Jul 2024 Filed under:
Expert answer
Hi Anita,
Whether you won it or not, you will still be liable for all costs to import the vehicle and register it in the South. From the information you've given, we believe you'd only have VRT to pay.
However, you will need to book an appointment to have the vehicle inspected at an NCT centre within seven days of it arriving in Ireland and you have 30 days to complete the procedure. I.e. you'll have to pay VRT on it as a passenger car if that's what it was on arriving in Ireland.
You can of course do the conversion afterwards.
Do I just pay VRT importing this Audi from the North?
Will I have to pay just the VRT if i import a Jan 2024 Audi Q4 e-tron 45 S line with 10,000km on the clock from Northern Ireland (no VAT or import duty)? It was only registered in Northern Ireland, never in the UK. I'm finding the Revenue wording difficult to follow.
Thanks for your help!
Paddy Phillips (Midleton)Jul 2024 Filed under: importing
Expert answer
Hi Paddy,
Yes, the official wording isn't the easiest. We are working on improving our guide to it all.
So long as that Audi is over six months old and has done more than 6,000km since new a the point of import south then no VAT or import duty should be payable, just VRT.
I'd like to import my 1999 Volkswagen T4...
Hi there,
I want to register my 1999 Volkswagen T4 from Germany. It has about 34,000km on the clock and just two seats. I cannot find this type of vehicle on the VRT calculator. How much will the VRT be approximately?
Thanks in advance
Viktoria Havlik (Killarney)Jul 2024 Filed under: importing
Expert answer
Hi Viktoria,
If you've owned and used the vehicle in Germany yourself for more than six months and you are moving to Ireland then no VRT should be payable. Have a read of the Transfer of Residence rules from Revenue to see if that applies to you.
If not, and the T4 is registered as a commercial vehicle, then VRT may be payable at a flat rate of just €200.
