My cost to change to a Yaris Cross is huge!
I have used Carzone for independent valuations on my own car and on second hand cars which I am considering purchasing. My 2021 Toyota Corolla Hybrid was valued at €21,500 and a 2023 Yaris Cross at €24,000. When I asked the dealer however the cost of upgrading was €10,300. I was left speechless!
Where do I go from here?
Pat O'Connor (Millstreet Co Cork)Feb 2025 Filed under: used car values
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Hi Pat,
I can imagine that was a bit of a shock, but I’m sure Carzone has disclaimers on its site warning users that its automated valuations are to be taken as a guide only. Looking through its own listings I can see 2021 Corollas from as low as €18,000 and examples of the 2023 Yaris Cross priced as high €35,000.
Even so, a dealer won’t offer you a price for your Corolla that they will sell it at as they must prepare the car for sale, offer a warranty and still make a profit.
And it’s also worth bearing in mind that each and every transaction is different. On any given day, any given dealer may or may not want your trade in as, for example, they already have plenty of 2021 Corollas in stock. Or they have had lots of calls about the Yaris Cross and know they can go for a high price.
I can only suggest you shop around to get the best deal for yourself.
Is there VAT on used cars from the North?
Is there VAT on second hand cars from the North?
Matt Flynn (Castlebar )Jan 2021 Filed under: importing
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Hi Matt,
Assuming you mean VAT on importing from the North, then the answer is no for the most part. The exception is on cars that are less than six months old or with fewer than 6,000km on the clock, as they are treated as new.
What is the OMSP for the Tesla Model 3?
What is the OMSP on Tesla Model 3 new? Not listed on Revenue's site.
Bill Riordan (CORK)Jan 2020 Filed under: VRT
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Hi Bill,
That’s because the OMSPs are listed for second hand cars. As a new car, the Tesla Model 3 sells for €48,900 (basic) here, so Revenue will treat that as the equivalent to the OMSP for a new Model 3.
Are crew cab rules ok for used vehicles?
Do the new crew cab tax rates apply to second hand cars? For example, if I buy a 2008 SUV that's classified as a crew cab and taxed as such can I continue to tax it at the commercial rate? I am a limited company director and VAT-registered so the car would be for business use.
Pete Watters (Dublin)Dec 2019 Filed under: commercial vehicle
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Hi Pete,
Yup, if it’s been registered as a commercial vehicle in the first place, and you’re using it only for work purposes, then you’re entitled to continue to tax it as a commercial.
Which car finance route to go, please?
Hello,
I would like to buy a car I'm used to second hand cars as I have a very limited budget. I'm still confused about the PCP option, scrappage trade ins and hire purchase. My normal route is to get a loan from my credit union, but the older my car is the more I end up paying for repairs. Could you help me in finding my best option because I'm a bit lost with it all?
Thank you
Anita
Anita O' Brien (Cork)Aug 2018 Filed under: finance
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Hi Anita,
A Credit Union loan is still, to be honest, a very good idea. As long as you’re getting a decent interest rate and the repayments are comfortable, it allows you to go into the dealership, cash in hand, and argue a better deal for yourself. You will need to do your research ahead of time to make sure that you’ll be able to get the specification you want. PCP is a good option for keeping monthly repayments lower, as it defers part of the repayment to a ‘bubble’ payment, theoretically covered by the value left in the car, at the end of the deal. PCP is really only good for you, though, if you want to go back in every 2-3 years to change your car for a new one. If you’re intending on keeping the car for longer, then Hire Purchase or the good old Credit Union makes more sense.
Why do Irish car buyers not get discounts?
Hi,
I wonder if you could explain something I don't really understand about the Irish car buying market, even though I have a big interest in cars and the industry. Why is it that Irish car buyers hardly ever seem to get the sort of discounts that buyers in Britain do? I'm not just referring to the fact that overall new and used prices are cheaper there.
I wanted to buy a new or nearly new Peugeot 508 here recently and thought I would get a reasonable discount, which I pushed for, as that model does not sell as well as many of it's rivals and I thought the Peugeot dealer would be delighted to sell a saloon seeing as the market for them is declining so much and so many people now want SUVs instead. Alas, I could not get any sort of decent discount for a new or nearly new 508. It is well known that in Britain the buyer often gets a sizeable discount for car types or models that lag behind many rivals in sales, or for certain brands such as Vauxhall/Opel and Citroen. From what I observe and hear, you don't get decent discounts either for certain makes and models here in Ireland.
Higher VRT and other taxes here, don't explain these differences alone. I thought with Brexit and the vast increase in used and nearly new imports that Irish dealers would be more price competitive, but I'm surprised also that the prices of good fresh second hand cars here haven't come down more in this backdrop. For some good reasons, I'd prefer to buy here than from abroad, but it just seems that Irish car buyers can't catch the breaks that UK buyers get at all! Do you agree with me or can you kindly explain these differences in both markets?
Thanks, JC
JC Holohan (Waterford)Jun 2018 Filed under: used car values
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Hi JC,
The big issue, really, is the size of the market. In the UK, vast dealer groups, with multiple outlets, are the norm and, obviously, these groups can be more cost-efficient and can potentially offer bigger discounts. Although there are dealer groups in Ireland, the norm is still very much the individual family-run business. That’s equally true on the import side of things — although there are now importers here that are tied directly to the car maker itself, many are still private, individual, locally-owned companies and those struggle to match the sort of discounting that is more common in the UK market. Plus, the fact that we buy in and around 100,000 to 130,000 cars a year here means that there’s less volume to spread discounts across. The UK market shifts two million cars a year — a considerable difference. VRT and VAT costs also play into it, as the wholesale price is often kept artificially lower to try and keep the added tax price down as much as possible.
Thoughts on my Touran's value?
Hi there, just want to get another opinion on trade in value.
I bought a 162 Volkswagen Touran in a Highline spec with the 2.0-litre engine not 1.6 and the car cost me just slightly over the €40k mark. We have been pricing around to trade up for a 182 Tiguan Allspace and I've tried five to six Volkswagen dealers with the highest of €22k as a trade-in value for my own car, so that’s a loss of €18k in two years and there was me thinking buying a VW was a sound bet!
I also contacted Volkswagen Ireland and the response I got was "your local dealer is best equipped to give you the best trade in." Is it any wonder people are deciding to go to the UK to buy when there is a serious rip off culture in this country? I look forward to your thoughts on this.
Thanks
David
David Hayes (Dunmanway )May 2018 Filed under: used car values
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Hi David,
Well, the issue is actually that all those people going and buying in the UK are pushing down the values of second hand cars here. Cheaper imports, which have been flooding into Ireland since the decimation of Sterling following the Brexit vote, have been putting major pressure on second hand car prices in Ireland, and I’d say your VW’s value is something of a victim of this. It also, to be honest, doesn’t help that it’s the 2.0-litre version, as most second hand buyers are more likely to want the cheaper-to-run 1.6 TDI instead. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but the market is, to put it lightly, in turmoil right now.
What precautions should I take when buying privately?
Hi, I have found a second hand car that I really like; however it is from a private individual, not a garage. What checks should I do to make sure this car is what the seller says it is? I'm concerned about buying a stolen car, or a car that still has finance on it, will a Cartell.ie check tell me if that is the case? Other than that, and having an idependent mechanic check the car, is there anything else I should do?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Dawn Higgins (Edenderry)Aug 2013 Filed under: miscellaneous
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Hi Dawn,
Yes, getting it checked by Cartell.ie should flag up whether there is anything dodgy in the car's history. Have a look through the service book too and maybe have a ring around the various garages where the car has been looked after. If the car was regularly serviced and/or they know the owners, that should be a good sign.
If you're still concerned, get the AA to inspect it for you. They go through second hand cars with a fine tooth comb and will flag up any potential issues.
