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Hi Derek,

We can only give you another estimate, I'm afraid, as there's no way to know what Revenue will actually value it at when it comes to its inspection.

There's a similar car on sale on Carzone as I write listed at about €37,000. Taking that as the OMSP (Open Market Selling Price) and the CO₂ output putting it into Band 18 for VRT (156-170g/km) at 30 per cent of the OMSP, then the VRT bill would in theory be €11,100.

That's before the NOx levy, though it's only a few hundred Euro on a modern petrol car such as that.

Adjust what you think Revenue will value the car at (the OMSP) to see what effect it has on the VRT calculation, but I agree with you that €3,500-4,500 seems low and you should be prepared for more.

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Hi there,

It's not possible for us to assess such an offer remotely as we know nothing about the car and its condition. You've also not mentioned the model year. Getting a one-year warranty on a used car is very reassuring, though.

I suggest you trawl the classifieds websites for similar models to get a feel for realistic values.

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Hi Stan,

It looks like similar cars to yours are being advertised by dealers for in and around €15,000-€17,000, while the new Peugeot 408 hybrid starts at a fiver under €38,000 as an Allure, or €42,000 as the GT.

We'd estimate a cost to change of around €25,000 for the Allure with your own car as a trade-in.

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Hi William,

Kia Ireland confirmed to us that it can't order a car to the specification another country offers it in – Irish buyers can have the Kia Sportage HEV as a K3 or GT-Line.

You could of course import one from Northern Ireland, though there's a lot of hassle involved, and hence cost. And it will limit how you pay for the car in terms of finance and a trade-in.

The new Sportage in GT-Line S Hybrid spec (front-wheel drive) in the UK is currently listed at £42,175 and the CO₂ emissions rating is 130g/km.

Based on the €53,000 price of the regular GT-Line model in Ireland, let's assume Revenue places an Open Market Selling Price (OMSP) of €58,000 on the GT-Line S.

At 130g/km, the Sportage would be in Band 12 for VRT, at 17.5 per cent of the OMSP – i.e. €10,150. The actual figure paid could go up or down dependant on Revenue's determination of the OMSP – which would only happen after the car is presented for inspection with the NCTS within 30 days of arrival in Ireland.

The NOx levy will be on top of that, but likely only a few hundred Euro.

It's trickier to calculate the VAT and import/customs duty. We believe that import duty at 10 per cent will be required, but what that's calculated against depends on how the car is treated for VAT.

If the seller does not zero-rate the car for VAT for export, then you'd pay UK VAT within that £42,175 price and also Irish VAT on top when you import it. That would make it prohibitively expensive.

Assuming you could get the dealer to zero-rate the car, and UK VAT is 20 per cent, that means the value of it with the VAT knocked off is £35,146. At today's exchange rates, that's about €40,500.

Import/customs duty of 10 per cent is therefore €4,050.

Now, you will have to pay Irish VAT, and this will be charged as 23 per cent of the cost of the car plus the import duty, i.e. €44,550, so the VAT works out as about €10,246.

Totting it all up in Euro:

Pay the dealer (if they zero-rate for VAT): €40,500
VRT based on OMSP assumption: €10,150
Import duty: €4,050
Irish VAT: €10,246

Add those up and it comes out at €64,946, and that's before you travel to the North to bring the car back and pay for registration plates, etc.

Sure, there are a few assumptions built into this calculation, and it's only a rough guide, but it probably indicates that it's really not worth the money or hassle to go down this route.

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Hi Anne Marie,

Yes, SIMI (Society of the Irish Motor Industry) maintains 'Recommended Price Guides' for past years. Go to that link and open the "2021" tab and choose the relevant month of the year. It will download an Excel file. Within that there are separate tabs for each of the car brands. A quick look at the January 2021 file shows that the Kona EV is in there, from about €49,000.

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Hi Mairead,

That's a good shortlist of cars to start with. Of them, we'd be slow to recommend the KGM due to the small dealer network and the way the distributor is set up here as an outpost of a Maltese company. The Torres EVX  undoubtedly is the most spacious of the three cars, with a huge boot and more space in the back seats, but we're not convinced by these things alone. The Skoda and Kia are far better cars in all other respects.

Before discussing them in more detail, I will say that it will be almost impossible to fit three child seats across the same row in any car of this size, especially with ISOFIX in use in the outer seats. If you're likely to be having a third child before changing car, and the older two will be in ISOFIX seats for some time yet, then I'd urge you to consider one with an extra row of seats. That'll reduce your choice of car unfortunately.

Anyway, both the Skoda and Kia are decent cars, and you'd likely be happy with both. The Enyaq has a slightly larger boot, but the EV5 fights back with a decent extra storage space under the bonnet up front to complement the regular boot so in effect there's little difference between them on that front.

In '85' specification, the Skoda has the longer official range, at up to 573km, while the best range the Kia manages is 530km. Those are comparable, as few EV owners would leave it that close to charge up on a long journey. Most do most of their charging at home and anyway, the vast majority of people cover less than half that range in a week, never mind a single journey. It's nice to have the comfort of more range of course, but the difference between these cars is negligible in real-world driving.

Although the Enyaq was updated earlier this year, the Kia is newer and feels larger inside, with a far nicer interface and loads of useful storage in the cabin.

Our money would go on the Kia if the choice were between just the three cars you named, but we'd suggest you take the time to go test drive as many models as you can to form your own opinion and bring your car seats along with you so you can see how much space there is.

A really good seven-seat electric SUV is the Peugeot E-5008, which is priced at a similar level to the cars you've mentioned. Read our review of that here.

An alternative five-seat model that has a little more space in the back seats is the Nissan Ariya. It has a smaller boot than the other cars here, but more space between the seatbelt buckles in the rear so it may be possible to fit a third child seat in, depending on its bulkiness. Read our reviews of that here.

Please do come back to us and let us know what you go for, or if you want more help narrowing things down.

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Hi Shona,

Before we take a look for potential cars for you, I would say that you should avoid diesels, as they're not suited to mostly city driving and will end up costing more in maintenance. Stick with petrol, or hybrid if something comes up within budget.

A small estate such as the Skoda Fabia Combi could work well for you. There are plenty within budget, they're reliable and they have huge boots. The only reservation I have is that the rear seating isn't huge, which might be a problem if you have two rear-facing child seats in there. Worth going to take a look at one and making that decision for yourself. The SEAT Ibiza ST (Sports Tourer) is pretty much the same car underneath, incidentally, if you prefer the look of that.

There are VW Golf and Passat estates on the market within budget and with petrol engines as well, and they come with much more rear legroom than the Fabia, but you'd likely have to make do with an older model for under €10,000.

On a completely different tack are cars such as the Nissan Note and Kia Venga, which are more upright than most hatchbacks that take up the same amount of space on the road, to the benefit of interior space. They beat the Fabia for rear legroom, for example, but their boots aren't huge. I wouldn't want to be carrying a travel-system-style buggy as well as anything else. Nonetheless those ones I've mentioned are reliable and within budget.

The Honda Jazz is similar and it's an excellent choice.

Let me know if we're on the right track with this and if you need further help narrowing your search. 

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Hi Sue,

That's quite a good selection of new EVs you're trying to choose from. Let's look at the facts first:

Exterior dimensions:

Kia EV4: 4,450mm long, 2,820mm wheelbase
Nissan Leaf: 4,350mm long, 2,690mm wheelbase
Toyota C-HR+: 4,520mm long, 2,750mm wheelbase

The wheelbase figures in particular tell us a lot. That's the distance between the front and rear axles and it's an indication of how much interior space a car has. And the Kia EV4 definitely has the most spacious cabin of the three. If you're regularly carrying larger people in the back, it's the one to go for, but it's also notably roomier up front.

Boot space with all seats in use:

Kia EV4: 435 litres
Nissan Leaf: 437 litres
Toyota C-HR+: 416 litres

The Kia and Nissan appear to be more or less identical on this metric, but the EV4's more upright rear means it can handle bulkier loads when you need it to.

Official range (battery capacity quoted as 'usable' figures):

Kia EV4: either 440km for 55kWh battery or 625km from 78kWh
Nissan Leaf: either 440km for 52kWh battery or 622km for 75kWh
Toyota C-HR+: 606km from 72kWh battery

This data reveals that the Nissan Leaf is a little more efficient than the other ones – in that it uses a bit less energy to go the same distance - so it should prove a little cheaper to run. The differences are slight, though. Note there is only one battery option for the Toyota.

Always remember that these are the official range figures the car makers have to quote according to a standardised test procedure, and it's very difficult to replicate them in real-world situations. Saying that, most people don't travel 400km a week, never mind a day, so it's worth considering the versions with the smaller batteries.

Pricing:

Kia EV4: from €39,940 for 55kWh model, €43,275 for the 78kWh version
Nissan Leaf: no Irish price confirmed as yet, but we'd guess €37,000 for the 52kWh model
Toyota C-HR+: from €42,160 (two grades available, but one battery)

Our opinions:

The Toyota and Nissan look similar in that they're curvy crossovers, while the Kia is a conventional five-door hatchback shape, albeit one with interesting design details.

They're all quite different inside in terms of style, though all of high quality and fitted with all the technology you'd need. The Kia is undoubtedly the most spacious feeling.

The Nissan is – marginally – the best of them to drive, with the Kia in second place, though there really isn't a lot between them in that regard.

In summary:

You'll have noticed that there aren't yawning gulfs between the cars – unless interior and boot space are top priorities - so it may well come down to your own preferences and the pricing. We'd highly recommend you go test drive each of them to see which you prefer.

Do let us know which you choose – and why.

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Hi Tom,

A traditional 'dry' timing belt, mostly made of rubber, runs in air behind dust covers. A 'wet' belt is of similar construction but actually runs in oil behind sealed covers. The theory is that this reduces heat, friction and noise while enhancing reliability.

Unfortunately, the material of the belt can be damaged by contaminants in the oil itself, causing premature failure of the belt or other engine damage caused by bits of the belt clogging up other components.

Not every car that has a wet belt has an issue, but they certainly have a bad reputation.

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Hi John,

Your Octavia's boot is rated to 600 litres, we believe, which is difficult to match unless you go for a much larger car. The Volkswagen ID.7 Tourer, for example, holds a little more than that, but it's out of budget. Same story for the VW Tayron eHybrid (PHEV), which has a bigger boot again.

Those cars are still relatively new, so you can't afford used versions yet, either, though we did find a selection of second-hand Skoda Superb PHEVs on the market within budget. They're massive in all directions and might well suit your needs, so long as you don't mind going for a car that's two to three years old.

The VW ID.4 and Skoda Enyaq have comparable boots of well over 500 litres and are in budget – though there's much more choice in the ID.4 lineup for that money.

Last but not least, and assuming you have nothing against buying an SUV, the Hyundai Tucson PHEV has a boot of about 560 litres and is within budget.

Let us know what you think of these suggestions.