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Help! I need to fit in three car seats...

Hi, with number three on the way I am looking for a family car with three isofix points. With our first child being five I am wondering if an isofix booster seat without sides is sufficent for her. Our other child is almost three and will be in a Maxi Cosi Ferofix seat, with the one on the way destined to be in a Brittax seat once out of his baby seat.

Breon White (Dublin)

Jun 2013 Filed under: seating

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Hi Breon,

First of all, congratulations on the incoming arrival. As for finding the right car seat, we're really not the experts in terms of advice on specific seats, but we know some people who are. Pop in to your local branch of Mothercare or Halfords (or Tony Kealy's if you live in the Dublin area) and you should be able to get some very helpful advice on which is the correct kind of seat for your kids. As a rule of thumb, the longer you can keep them in a rear-facing seat, and then the longer you can keep them in a full-backed seat, with integral harness, the better. It's down to the size and weight of the individual child though. 

As for cars, you have several choices but they're all MPVs, I'm afraid. Sorry about that... Still, all is not lost, as the Citroen C4 Picasso and Peugeot 5008 are both pleasantly comfy, economical and easy on the eye. Kick up a price and size band and you'll find the Ford S-Max, which is one of our favourite cars, whether or not space is your priority. Handsome and good to drive, that one.

If you're in the second hand market, you could do worse than track down a good used Fiat Multipla (if you can live with the looks, it's got one of the best cabins of any car, ever) or there's always the evergreen Renault Scenic or the (slightly dour) Volkswagen Touran. Finally, there's the Toyota Verso, which isn't the most exciting choice but is solidly built and spacious. Finally, the six-seat Honda FR-V is a left-field choice that's one of those classic "try it and you'll never have anything else" cars.

Hope that helps.


Want to know the best seven-seater.

Want to know the best seven-seater on the market.

Bridget Enabulele (Dublin)

May 2013 Filed under: choosing new car

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Hi Bridget,

Do you mean medium or large seven-seater? If it’s a medium one, then the best ones are the VW Touran, Kia Carens, Toyota Verso, Citroen C4 Picasso, or Renault Grand Scenic. If you mean a bigger one, then the best ones are the Ford S-Max or SEAT Alhambra. Here are our reviews of them all:

Volkswagen Touran review

Kia Carens review

Toyota Verso review

Citroen C4 Grand Picasso review

Renault Grand Scenic review

Ford S-Max review

SEAT Alhambra review


Which diesel MPV would suit our family?

Could you recommend an economical diesel MPV or family car for a budget of around €10,000? Preferably to fit three car seats in the back, with a large boot space, low tax and suitable for country roads?

Thanks

Derek Mc (Newtownmountkennedy)

Apr 2013 Filed under: family car

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Hi Derek,

We're assuming you mean large boot space when the rear-most seats are folded down when it comes to the seven-seat models, but come back to us if not. Seven-seat cars are your best/easiest option for fitting three car seats in.

The first car we found in the classifieds that might suit you is Citroen's C4 Picasso. It's a brilliant MPV and with a little negotiation you should be able to afford a 2008 model with the economical 1.6-litre HDi diesel engine. We're not big fans of the 'EGS' automatic gearbox, but give it a go and make that decision for yourself. The five-seat version (not called 'Grand') is good too if you can live with that many seats.

Ford's C-Max and S-Max are worth a look too. The latter is a good deal bigger, but the former is economical and well priced.

Personally I'm not a huge fan of the Opel Zafira, though we have readers who swear by them. There are loads on the market too so shop around for one that suits.

Others to look into might be the Toyota Corolla Verso and Volkswagen Sharan and Touran.

Let us know if you need help narrowing down the search.


How much is my Citroen C4 Picasso worth?

What is the value of a 2007 Citroen C4 Picasso 1.6 diesel with 174,000km on it?

John O'wyer (Kilkenny)

Mar 2013 Filed under: used car values

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Hi John,

Sorry to say but the high mileage of the car you mention means its value is a good bit lower than comparable models with lower (i.e. average) mileage. About €4,000 to €5,000 seems reasonable, but you'll probably be bid lower than that for a trade-in.

Let us know how you get on


Which used MPVs are cheap to tax?

I am looking for a decently sized seven-seater that comes in the cheaper tax band; can you please suggest one (that isn't too expensive or new out as I am looking for second hand)?

Natash Murray (Dublin)

Feb 2013 Filed under: taxation

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Hi Natash,

Your best bets are the Citroen C4 Grand Picasso, the VW Touran, the Peugeot 5008, or the Kia Carens 1.7 CRDi (the current-shape model). All of those slot into Band A for motor tax, as long as you get the 1.6 or 1.7 diesel models.


Most efficient MPVs on the market?

What is the best MPV for tax and fuel efficiency?

Brian McEntee (Dublin)

Jan 2013 Filed under: fuel economy and emissions

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Hi Brian,

It depends where you’re doing most of your driving. The Toyota Prius+ has CO2 emissions of just 106g/km, and can get 60mpg if driven very, very gently, but it’ll be way too thirsty if you’re doing lots of motorway miles. The best diesel-engined MPVs are probably the 1.6 TDI VW Touran, the 1.6 HDi Citroen C3 Picasso, or the 1.5 dCi Renault Scenic.


Citroen C4 Picasso or Peugeot 5008?

Which are deemed the better car ( I know they are almost identical! )....the C4 Grand Picasso, or the Peugeot 5008. Legroom up front and even in the second row seems better in the 5008?

David Weir (Co Meath)

Sep 2011 Filed under: choosing new car

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Hi David, 

There is very little to choose between these two, as you have already alluded to, but for me the Peugeot would be the better buy because the interior feels better quality and it is likely to hold its value a fraction better on past evidence. You might get a better price on the C4 though, so don't rule it out. Try them both out for size, but I think the Peugeot should get the nod. 


Is the Opel Meriva a decent buy?

Hi lads, just a quick question.

We have a 2003 Fiat Punto and we are expecting twins shortly. We were looking for a five-door car with Isofix seats but not too big a body. We are thinking about an Opel Meriva Club version, 3-4 years old. The Meriva has a flat and level boot that would leave some space for shopping etc. Basically, is the Meriva a good car, cheap to run and flexible enough to cope with two young babies?

Do you have any info on autodirect.ie? They seem to offer good deals.

David Mc Ardle (Drogheda Co Louth)

May 2011 Filed under: choosing used car

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Hi David,

I see that Autodirect do have a 2007 Opel Meriva for €6,495 and yes it is a good little family car for the money. It is a small MPV, so even though it has a high roof, the cabin isn't that massive. I am wondering whether it might be more prudent, given that those twin babies will grow, to look at something a little larger that wouldn't cost the earth to run.

For the same price as that Meriva, you could have a 2007 Citroen Picasso with tiny mileage. This is a much bigger vehicle and it's a great MPV. Go a year older and you could have the infinitely more useful Opel Zafira for similar money. Something like a Peugeot 307 SW offers lots of space and comfort too, as well as good value.

Anyway, I am not answering your question. AutoDirect is very good to deal with and has established a very strong reputation, so it would get our seal of approval. The Opel Meriva will be a decent buy too.

Anyway, come back to us if you need more help!


What's the best second-hand seven-seat MPV?

I am looking for a seven-seat MPV. What do you think of a 2007 Citroen C4 Picasso Grand manual - or a 2008 automatic? Was told Renaults were unreliable, what do you think? Any other suggestions?

Niamh Clarke (Naas)

Apr 2011 Filed under: choosing used car

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Hi Niamh,

We spoke by e-mail and now I have a better idea of your budgets there are a few good ideas. I think the Ford S-Max is probably my favourite car of this bunch. I quite like this one. It is diesel, looks great and has low mileage. We reckon you could get them down in price a little too. 

In relation to the choice between manual and auto in the C4 Picasso, that really is down to personal choice. It isn't the greatest auto ever but it isn't the worst either. You really should try it and see. The EGS box is a little jerky. Personally I wouldn't really fancy it but you should be the judge. This one is quite nice and has really low mileage. 

I wouldn't say not to consider Renaults, but they weren't a good vintage at the time, so personally I don't think I would be spending money on a 2007/2008 Scenic. They have got a lot better since then though. 

Lastly, you could try a VW Touran. It isn't that exciting but they hold their value really well and are nicely built. 

Anyway Niamh, if it were my money, I'd have the Ford S-Max.

I hope this helps.


Safety of occupants in third row of seats

Hello

I am looking at buying a second hand seven seater. When I was checking the compatibility of my car seats with the seven seaters I had in mind (Ford S-Max, VW Touran and Citroen C4) the car seat manufacturer recommends not putting any car seats in the third row.

On further investigation it seems when the third row is in use the safety of people (i.e mostly kids as most adults would not sit in third row) is very poor. Can you shed any light? Besides going for the bigger seven seaters like the Ford Galaxy (which is out due to budget reasons) is there any seven seater safer in this regard? Am I overthinking this, is this the case with most five seater cars or is the boot space a big plus if a car is rear ended? 

Linda Keane (Meath)

Mar 2011 Filed under: safety

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Hi Linda,

I can totally understand your concerns. Anyway, to start, here are all the EuroNCAP reports on the cars you were looking at so you can have a good look at them.

Ford S Max / VW Touran / Citroen C4 Picasso 

The placement of ISOFIX seats often dictates where child seats should go and in a lot of MPVs there is still only two and these are usually in the outer two seats of the second row. We answered a question on this recently. 

This article by JD Power and Associates is good. As regards the rear row, the information is a little unclear on whether there is a greater danger to be in the rear seats in a rear impact, but it is something that we will investigate further. The strength of the modern MPV at the rear is pretty impressive though and as long as the child is front facing they are well protected.