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How to work out VRT of non-listed car?

What if the specific car is not shown on the VRT calculator? For example 2019 Peugeot 508 1.6 petrol automatic GT-Line. There is no 1.6 petrol shown. I don't want to import the car without knowing the price to pay.

Thanks

Ian Delaney (Naas)

Sep 2020 Filed under: importing

Expert answer

Hi Ian,

If the specific model isn’t shown, then you can make a rough back-of-a-napkin calculation based on the CO2 emissions and the prices that such a car would sell for In Ireland. The 508 1.6 turbo GT-Line’s emissions of 125g/km put it into Band B1 for VRT, which means 18 per cent of the Irish market price. That price is a little difficult to calculate as most 508s sold here in 2019 were diesel, but values seem to run between €25,000 to €30,000 — so, splitting the difference, 18 per cent of €27,500 is €4,950. The NOx levy on top of that will only be €135. 

Obviously all of this is an approximation only.


Is a newer petrol car cheaper to tax?

I have a 1990 Mercedes petrol car and the tax is expensive, if I bought a 2012 petrol car would the tax be cheaper?

Pat Campionlaois (Naas)

Sep 2020 Filed under: taxation

Expert answer

Hi Pat,

Yup, such are the vagaries of the CO2-based tax system that we switched to in 2008. The idea was to reward those choosing vehicles with lower emissions, and that is often most starkly shown up when you start looking at older cars with larger engines versus newer models, which probably have much more power, but have smaller, more efficient engines. Of course there’s an argument that says that keeping an old car going, rather than buying a new one, is actually overall better for the environment, but that’s not going to wash with the tax authorities I’m afraid.


Can a farmer use the herd no. for CV tax?

Can a farmer still use their herd number instead of a VAT no. to avail of commercial vehicle tax rate on a 4x4 like a Toyota Land Cruiser or Hilux etc? This was the case in the past but has this changed?

Fintan Cassidy (Blessington)

Jul 2020 Filed under: taxation

Expert answer

Hi Fintan,

In theory, a herd number might be sufficient, but basically it’s down to the local motor tax office with which you’re dealing. Basically, there’s two threads here — the first is that the vehicle must be an appropriate one for commercial use, and the second is that you must show some sort of documentation that proves that you require the use of such a vehicle. We checked with the Department of Transport, and here’s the reply we received:

"Motor tax is based on both the construction and use of a vehicle.  To be taxed as a goods vehicle, a vehicle must be constructed or adapted as a goods vehicle and must be used solely for the carrying of goods in the course of trade or business.  Under Article 3 of the Road Vehicles (Registration and Licensing) (Amendment) Regulations 1992 (S.I. 385 of 1992), a licensing authority (motor tax office) must be satisfied that the licence (motor tax disc) being applied for is the appropriate licence for the vehicle concerned.   It is open to the relevant motor tax office to seek whatever documentation it deems appropriate in support of an application for a particular rate of motor tax.  In the case of an application for the goods rate of motor tax, such documentation may include a certificate of commercial insurance, a Tax Clearance Certificate, evidence of registration for tax or registration for VAT (if turnover for VAT exceeds the relevant thresholds set down by the Office of the Revenue Commissioners) or, at the discretion of the licensing authority, any other appropriate documentation that would indicate that the applicant is in trade or business. It is up to the individual concerned to provide whatever evidence is required by the licensing authority in order for it to be satisfied that the applicant is entitled to claim what is in effect a concessionary rate of tax."


Can I import a car from UK in other name?

Hi, my girlfiend has been working in Ireland fior nine months, but has a UK home address; could I import a car in her name to avoid paying VRT?

Pat Murphy (CORK)

Jul 2020 Filed under: importing

Expert answer

Hi Pat,

You theoretically could do, but you’d have to show to Revenue proof of at least six months' tax and insurance, in her name, for the car and proof of change of address from the UK to Ireland, again in her name.


Taxes on importing my older Pathfinder?

I am moving to Ireland, so how much VRT and emissions tax is due on a 2006 Nissan Pathfinder Aventura? I've had it for nine years.

Regards Joe Barrett

Joe Barrett (Birmingham)

Jul 2020 Filed under: importing

Expert answer

Hi Joe,

If you are moving to Ireland, and bringing the car with you, and you can show proof of at least six months’ tax and insurance, as well as proof of change of address, then you’ll be exempt from paying VRT.


Not VAT-registered: can I still get a van?

Hi,

I am driving a Volkswagen Polo at the moment, but I'm going to sell it as I am a carpenter, but get a lot of jobs on the side as well so I need a small van for tools and stuff. I am not VAT-registered so do I need a VAT number or can I just tax it anyway without it?

Thank you

Andrew Cahill, Clonmel, Tipperary

Andrew Cahill (Clonmel)

Jul 2020 Filed under: taxation

Expert answer

Hi Andrew,

In theory, you can register and tax a commercial vehicle without a VAT number, but it’s tricky. Generally speaking, you have to show that your business is registered for tax before you can apply for commercial rate motor tax, but there certainly have been individual cases of people explaining that they have a small business that’s not VAT-registered, but still need a van for their work, and the tax office has taken a lenient view. Your best bet is to fill in an RF111 form, use your PPS number instead of a VAT number and then explain your circumstances to your local motor tax office. And hope for the best.


Looking for a three-seat LR Defender...

I am looking to buy a three-seat Land Rover Defender. I work abroad for a foreign company so I'm wondering if I would be able to apply for Commercial Road Tax?

John Keogh (Cork)

Jun 2020 Filed under: commercial vehicle

Expert answer

Hi John,

A Defender with only three seats in the front and no glass panels in the back would certainly qualify as a commercial vehicle, so as long as you can show that you require it for work, and that you’re not using it for social, domestic, or pleasure use, then you should be fine.


Tax to import a Land Rover Defender?

I have a 2007 Land Rover Defender diesel 2.4 in the UK. I will be moving It to Ireland this summer; what will the taxation and import duty be?

Janice Taberer (Chelmsford)

Jun 2020 Filed under: importing

Expert answer

Hi Janice,

It depends when you bought it. If you bought it at least six months ago, and can show that it’s been taxed and insured for that period, plus you can show proof of transfer of residence, then there’s no import duty (Vehicle Registration Tax) to pay. When it comes to paying road tax, it depends on the model. If it’s a commercial vehicle, and used as a commercial vehicle, then it will cost €333 a year to tax. If it’s a commercial vehicle but used as a private car, then it will be €1,034 per year. If it’s a passenger model Defender, then with CO2 emissions of more than 225g/km, it’ll cost you €2,350 per year in motor tax.


Can I get scrappage on an off-road car?

Can I get a scrappage scheme on off-road cars?

John Downey (Macroom)

Jun 2020 Filed under: scrappage

Expert answer

Hi John,

Do you mean acrappage trade-in on an old off-roader? Or scrappage trade-in when buying a new off-roader? Yes, is the answer in both cases — most brands currently have some sort of scrappage offer in play, and it really doesn’t matter what vehicle you’re trading in — you’re going to get some kind of discount.

Or, did you mean can you get scrappage on a car that’s registered as being off-the-road? That’s trickier. Really, the car that you’re trading in generally has to get to the garage under its own steam, and show current tax and insurance to qualify. It’s worth having a word with the dealer you’re buying from, though, as there may be some wiggle room on that score. 


Questions about taxing a VW Caddy van...

Just wondering how much the tax would be on a 2016 2.0-litre Volkswagen Caddy van privately? Or how can I tax it commercially without a VAT number?

Thanks, Noel

Noel Peppard (Enniscorthy)

Jun 2020 Filed under: taxation

Expert answer

Hi Noel,

A Caddy van with a 2.0-litre engine is going to cost you €710 per year to tax as a private vehicle. As for taxing it as a commercial, a VAT number isn’t an absolute requirement in and of itself, but you may be asked to provide proof of trading or a letter from Revenue showing that you are registered for tax as a business. 


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