Is this price ok for a Land Rover Discovery?
Is €8,950 an ok price for a 2005 Land Rover Discovery 3 2.7 diesel?
Owen Mayew (Co.wicklow)May 2014 Filed under: used car values
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Hi Owen,
Not bad actually, but check it carefully for electrical gremlins, gearbox issues and look underneath for signs of abuse from over-enthusiastic off-roading.
Does an SUV suit my family needs?
Can you recommend a good used family SUV that won't break the bank and has good fuel economy and emissions? Main requirements are: it's spacious enough to fit two adults and three small kids comfortably, plus has lots of storage space for camping gear, buggies etc; cheap to run; readily available second-hand (2008 and later). I'm not planning any off-road trips so four-wheel drive isn't too important, neither is an automatic transmission, climate control or other such luxuries.
Eoin Cleary (Co.wicklow)May 2014 Filed under: choosing used car
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Hi Eoin,
I hate to say it but an SUV may not be what you need. To get three kids in comfortably, you really need a car with three individual seats across the back and only the likes of the Land Rover Discovery or Toyota Land Cruiser have those - and they're big, heavy and expensive to run.
So you may need to look down the MPV route. Don't panic - it's not as bad as it sounds. Have a look for a nice Ford S-Max. Tonnes of room, extra seats in the (massive) boot and affordable running costs.
That said, it depends on the age of your kids. If they're big enough to not need booster seats (or if only a couple of them still need one) that opens up your options a little. If you still fancy an SUV, try a Nissan X-Trail; spacious, reliable, good to drive.
Let us know what you go for
What's the engine/gearbox like in the Volkswagen Touareg?
Can you tell me much about the 2.5-litre diesel engine and gearbox of the Volkswagen Touareg?
Sean Dunleavy (Dublin)Mar 2014 Filed under: diesel
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Hi Sean,
Watch for dodgy turbos, flaky electronics and issues with the brakes not being strong enough (more of a problem on the heavier V10 TDI to be honest). That 2.5 TDI engine does give pretty decent economy for a big 4x4 though, and it feels more wieldy and manoeuvrable than rivals such as the Land Rover Discovery or Toyota Land Cruiser.
What should I look for on a Discovery 3?
Anything I should be aware of when buying a 2007 Land Rover Discovery 3 TDV6 from a garage with 120,000 miles on the clock?
Craig Brunker (Dublin)Feb 2014 Filed under: reliability
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Hi Craig,
Thankfully, not as much as Land Rovers of old. It seems that, bar the occasional 'Friday afternoon car' the Disco 3 is a well-made, mostly reliable product. Check carefully though for any electrical gremlins (literally push every button and make sure that what it's supposed to control responds as it should) and check for any leaks or uneven sitting from the air suspension - could be a sign that the compressor is on its way out. Make sure that the automatic gearbox (few were sold as manuals) shifts crisply and cleanly too - the Disco 3 doesn't have the same reputation for chewing transmissions as its predecessor, but it can still be a weak point. And, as with any big off-roader, check carefully to see if it's been abused or worked hard as a builder's mate.
Should I stay away from the Espace and this older Discovery?
I need a second hand seven seater. Have seen a 2005 Renault Grand Espace automatic petrol, 95k miles, leather priced at €3,850. Fallen in love with a 2004 Land Rover Discovery 2.5-litre, auto, diesel, leather, 150k miles too. Price €5,250. Would I be crazy to go for Land Rover? Difference in tax isn't too big. Two trustworthy mechanics told me Renault give expensive problems but didn't ask about Land Rover!
Susan Ryan (Dublin IRL)Feb 2014 Filed under: reliability
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Hi Susan,
Wow, you're a glutton for punishment aren't you? You pretty much couldn't have picked two less reliable cars. The Discovery is best avoided. If you could afford to trade up to a third-generation model I'd say that's worth a go, as Land Rover was starting to get on top of its quality issues by then, but the old Series II is just bad news. Gearboxes go, electrics go and even the suspension can fail. I know what you mean about falling in love - it's happened to me too with old Land Rovers, but you're looking at a very high-maintenance partner there.
The Espace is a little better, but not by much. The diesel engines are very fragile - check for smoke, check for oil levels and if there are any signs of overheating, run don't walk away. Check anything with an electrical wire coming out the back of it too as it can all go wrong, although the electronic parking brake and electric windows are especially prone to wrongness. Also, keep an eye on the tyres. Espaces go through them like butter and 20,000km is about as much as you'll get out of a set.
If you really want a seven-seater that works properly, can I suggest either a Mitsubishi Pajero or Toyota Land Cruiser? Not as cool as the Discovery, but they won't let you down.
Any major issues with the Land Rover Discovery 3?
Are there any serious mechanical issues with the Land Rover Discovery 3 that a prospective buyer should know about?
Vinny Duggan (Galway)Oct 2013 Filed under: choosing used car
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Hi Vinny,
Hmmm. Yes and no. Land Rover quality control has come on in leaps and bounds in recent years, and the Disco 3 was one of the first cars to benefit from a new, higher quality regime. Mostly, they're well built and reliable, but a few 'rogue' cars still seem to slip through the net. The main fault is with the air suspension system, and the air compressor that pumps it up, which can fail, so make sure that the car rises and lowers as it should. Earlier cars had a lot of minor electrical glitches - everything from Bluetooth phone hookups to stereos to the electronic handbrake, but most of these should have been ironed out by now.
What models can fit three child seats in the back?
What car/MPV/SUV can fit three child seats in the back?
Pamela Bastable (Dublin)Sep 2013 Filed under: child or baby seats
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Hi Pamela,
There's a few: Renault Scenic. Toyota Verso. Peugeot 5008. Citroen C4 Picasso. Land Rover Discovery. Chrysler Voyager. Ford Galaxy & S-Max. SEAT Alhambra. Volkswage Sharan. Renault Espace.
That list isn't it either!
Our first baby is on the way and we need a bigger car...
My wife and I are expecting our first baby in Jan 2014. She currently drives a '99 three-door 1.0L Toyota Vitz/Yaris (Jap import purchased five years ago - in pink). The Yaris has never given her an ounce of trouble but it's a three-door so getting a baby seat in and out will be a pain. So what I'm looking to know is what we could get for the Yaris (has less than 30,000km the clock) and what is the best five-door that's not too big that we could get from the proceeds of the sale and putting an additional €3,000 towards it?
Cheers, Ian
Ian Bennett (Dublin)Aug 2013 Filed under: choosing used car
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Hi Ian,
Right, the bad news is that the Yaris isn't going to be worth all that much at this stage. I'd say if you get €1,000 for it, either cash or as a trade in, you'll be doing well. The good news is that gives you a €4,000 budget and that puts an awful lot of really good cars well within your reach.
Now, funny story. When we had our first boy, he was born in February. That Christmas, I borrowed a Land Rover Discovery to bring us all down to my wife's parents in Waterford. And thanks to all the luggage, buggy, travel cot, bath etc. etc. etc. I couldn't see out of the back of the damned car for a whole week. That's a long winded way of saying you need to maximise your space.
So how about a Citroen Berlingo? €4,000 should get you into a 2005 1.4 petrol model and there's so much space in the back that all that baby gear will fit easily. Don't fancy a van with windows? Then how about a compact estate? There are some nice Chevrolet Lacettis around - not the most exciting car in the world but reliable, comfy, well-equipped and spacious. Your budget should get you into a 2006 or 2007 model. Or, if that's a bit too left field, what about a MkII Ford Focus estate? We found a 2005 1.6 diesel with air conditioning that's in your budget.
Best of luck with the car hunt and the baby!
What do you think of the Nissan Pathfinder?
What do you think about the 2006 Nissan Pathfinder Extreme Elegance model?
Niall Carty (Letterkenny)May 2013 Filed under: choosing used car
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Hi Niall,
Well, that kind of depends what you want it for. If you're looking at it because you want a big, four-door family SUV then, no. You see, that Pathfinder is based on the Navara pickup and it's a pretty crude device, lacking the kind of refinement and comfort you'd get from, say, a Land Rover Discovery. That said, if you're looking for something to do a bit of hard work and the occasional bit of off-roading, then go right ahead - it's perfect for that kind of life. Just watch the clutch, it seems to be a weak point and can be rather expensive to fix.
Is the Land Rover Discovery a good buy?
I am after a good 4x4 for work, the vehicle will see a lot of hill-climbing but not too much bad off-roading. I am looking at a 2008 Land Rover Discovery. I have to say it is like new, but for the mileage I will do (i.e. 500+ per week), do you think it'll be reliable? If not what would you recommend?
Regards
Donal Haslam (Rhode, Offaly)May 2013 Filed under: choosing used car
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Hi Donal,
The Discovery is one of our very favourite cars, especially for the way it can carry seven full-sized adults in luxury-car comfort down the motorway. With big mileage like that though you will be rocking up the fuel bills, as a 2.7-litre V6 diesel Disco will only get about 29mpg in normal driving conditions. That said, you won't get any better from any of its rivals, so there you go.
As for reliability, Land Rover has come on in leaps and bounds in this respect recently, but there's no getting away from the fact that its vehicles tend to be more fragile than the Japanese competition. Small electrical niggles are the most likely problems but both the gearboxes and the air suspension can give problems too and those are rather more serious issues. The V6 diesel engine is pretty solid though.
It would be worth checking out both a Toyota Land Cruiser and Mitsubishi Pajero too, but while both of those would be more likely to have better reliability, neither can hold a candle to the Disco's on-road refinement and comfort.
Let us know which way you go