How reliable is a new Renault (or Dacia), Fiat or even Citroen?
How reliable is a new Renault (or Dacia), Fiat or even Citroen?
Ok, not going to be many problems in first year or two, but I typically like to keep my cars for most of their life cycle, I feel I get most value for my investment that way. I know eight years ago (when I bought my last car) I was told stay away, as once a few years old all the electrical gremilins come out to play. I'm not brand loyal, in fact the more options I have the more likely I am to get a deal that suits me. But I do like trouble free motoring and currently drive a 2007 Toyota Avensis and it has never put a foot wrong.
Should I stick to the old reliables (i.e. Mazda, Toyota etc.) or are the new generation of Renault, Citroen and even Fix It Again Tony (Fiat) likely to be properly reliable over seven or more years? Also contemplating Kia (seven-year warranty sounds good to me).
Thanks for your time.
John Walsh (Waterford)Feb 2015 Filed under: choosing new car
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Hi John,
OK, there's good news and bad news here. The good news is that the four marques of which you've spoken have all really lifted their quality and reliability games. Renault especially has come on a long way since the dark, unreliable days of the early 2000s. While electrical gremlins are pretty much guaranteed further down the line, that's something you could equally say of any Mercedes-Benz, BMW or Audi.
Dacia tend also to make very reliable cars, in no small part because they're so simple and lacking in the sort of high-end electronics that festoon other models. The brand regularly features very high up in the European JD Power customer satisfaction rankings.
Fiat tends to do less well in those rankings, but much of that is down to a dealer network that's still trying to get its head around modern customer service requirements. The fact is that Fiats these days are no more or less well made or reliable than any other brand (mostly - more on that in a tic). Certainly, we know of many Fiat customers who've had trouble-free motoring for many, many years.
Citroen too has really lifted its game and the latest generations, such as the C4 Picasso and C4 Cactus are really well put together. Long term reliability is still an unknown of course for these new models, but in general, longevity seems to be on the up.
However, just as these Franco-Italian brands have improved, so too have the Japanese and Koreans. There is still a distinct gap in overall solidity between the Japanese brands (Honda especially) and everyone else. It's still the case that if you want genuinely trouble-free motoring, the Japanese are still kings, with the Koreans and Skoda hot on their heels.
That said, I reckon if you bought any Fiat, looked after it properly and made sure it was fully serviced to schedule, you wouldn't have any major problems.
What alternatives are there to the Ford S-Max?
What alternatives are there to the Ford S-Max? We want to trade ours in. We want a five-seater with the option of easily converting to a seven-seater when needed.
R Maguire (Cork)Jul 2014 Filed under: choosing new car
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Hi Reg,
Well, there are a couple of good options around although few of them offer quite as much space as the S-Max. The Citroen C4 Picasso, Volkswagen Touran and Toyota Verso are all smaller than the Ford, but offer plenty of space for five, with room for seven at a pinch. Or you could try the always-excellent SEAT Alhambra (sliding doors are handy in tight car parks) or even the (not very common) Mazda5.
If none of those tickle your fancy, and if you’re looking more for a proper five-seater with jump seats for another two, allow me to pull out of the hat my always-ready answer to seven-seater conundrums - a Mercedes E-Class Estate with those clever folding seats in the boot.
Is the Citroen C4 Grand Picasso Auto a good car?
Can you tell me if 2009 Citroen C4 Grand Picasso Auto VTR + is a good car?
Ann Mullen (Meath)May 2014 Filed under: choosing used car
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Hi Ann,
Generally speaking, yes. The C4 Picasso is better built than Citroen's reputation would have you believe and it's spacious and economical to run.
In terms of problems to look for, check the cabin carefully for any bits of detaching trim or family-related damage. As it's the EGS auto, see if it's had the software upgrade that improved the shift quality and check to see if the clutch has been replaced - some early EGS models used to eat up their clutches.
What should I replace my Mercedes E-Class with?
I have a 2006 Mercedes-Benz E 200 Elegance Kompressor auto petrol and want to change for something more economical and with much lower tax. Was thinking of a BMW 320d auto or Audi A4 auto diesel. Would I get 2012 in either for €20,000 with my own? I really like the Citroen C4 Picasso diesel auto too but am worried about resale value. Any advice?
Thanks a lot.
Ann Joyce (Galway)May 2014 Filed under: choosing used car
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Hi Ann,
Yeah, you might just scrape into a 2012 model in either car but to be fair, though rolling back to a 2011 or even a 2010 (assuming that condition and history are OK) isn't really going to be any hardship. As for the C4 Picasso, well it's a very, very different type of car altogether - a big, spacious family MPV rather than a low-slung sports saloon. They're nice and comfy, but won't be as well built as either of the German cars.
If it were our choice to make, we'd go with the Audi - comfy, decent to drive and reliable.
How good are the seven-seat Citroen C4 Picassos?
How good are the seven-seat Citroen C4 Picassos? Thinking of getting one for my wife and two babies.
Des Donagh (Galway)May 2014 Filed under: choosing new car
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Hi Des,
If you mean the new model, which was introduced in the summer of 2013, then it's generally excellent. Gorgeous to look at (well, we think so anyway) with a fantastic interior, lots of space and excellent economy from the familiar 1.6-litre diesel engine. Citroen's build quality has greatly improved over the past few years, so you shouldn't have any major reliability worries and it's an immensely comfortable car in which to do long journeys. Here's our Irish road test of the five-seat model.
If you're talking about the previous generation then there are a couple of points to keep an eye on. The 1.6 diesel has a habit of developing problems, usually with the turbo's exhaust gas recirculation (EGR) valve. It's a relatively easy fix but it can be pricey so shop around for quotes. Buy as recent a car as you can, as Citroen was constantly improving the build quality as the car developed. Avoid the automatic EGS gearbox - it's awful to drive with and can develop problems with the clutch. Check the cabin very carefully for loose or rattling trim and inspect the bumpers, especially the enormous one-piece front bumper, for any damage - they can be hugely expensive to repair.
We want to move back to an MPV, but which one?!
For years my husband drove Renault Mégane Scenics, and then about six months ago he took a whim and got a Mitsubishi ASX (not the 4WD model). It was a 2013 demo. The good price, the long warranty and the fact that it was diesel all enticed him. It is much cheaper to run and a nice drive, but the interface (is that the word?) is crude compared to the Renault. No 'intelligent' wipers, lights or windows; and the sound system controls are not on the wheel. Plus, the storage space is poor, and the boot is smaller, etc. etc. The main problem, though, is the appearance of the thing. After years of avoiding SUVs, he has somehow acquired a machine that looks like - oops! - an SUV.
We won't dwell on the reasons for not wanting to drive an SUV, or how he managed to actually buy something that looks like the one thing he doesn't want to drive. But, let's just say that he is unhappy enough that he really wants to change it for a (preferably) 2013 or 2014 (demo model) of something less 'assertive'-looking. If we have to pay to change, we will, although obviously we'd prefer not to. We are looking at another Renault Scenic, but are wondering if there might be another MPV-type car that you'd recommend in the same price bracket?
Our requirements are diesel, five doors, a large boot (for work equipment and for dogs), and preferably a highish car (not an ordinary estate).
Thank you!
Desperate in Dublin
J P (Dublin)Mar 2014 Filed under: choosing used car
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Hi Jane,
Sounds like you want to move back into a proper MPV and the best one around at the moment, for my money, is the Citroen C4 Picasso. Citroen registered a bundle of them last year for press and promotional purposes so there should be plenty of good nearly-new or dealer demo stock knocking around. It's a classy looking thing, comfy to drive and utterly massive on the inside. Other good options are the Ford C-Max (great to drive but the boot is slightly on the small side) and the Toyota Verso (a touch unexciting but with terrific quality and lots of space). Or, of you want something with a warranty to match the Mitsubishi's, track down a nice 2013 Kia Carens - a classy looking car with bundles of space.
Let us know how you get on
My car doesn't have the options it's supposed to have. Help!
I recently bought a new Citroen C4 Picasso (semi-automatic). I informed the dealer a number of weeks ago that the car I bought did not have the rear parking sensors, which my model was supposed to have. The dealer has not responded to me on this issue but has informed me that he no longer has the dealership for Citroen. I would appreciate any advice on my way forward here in relation to who should I contact about this matter and how and in what way my warranty will be honoured.
GERARD O CONNOR (LIMERICK)Mar 2014 Filed under: optional extras
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Hi Gerard,
OK, it's basic consumer law at work here. Assuming your contract was made with the dealer when he was still a Citroen main dealer, then he must honour the original deal that was made. If not, you've been supplied with the car either as a mistake or under false pretences. It doesn't matter that he doesn't have the Citroen franchise any more - he can still order a car from them under the EU's block exemption rules. If he tries to fob you off saying that his new franchisee won't let him, don't buy it - he must still fulfil the original contract. If there's still no joy, contact Citroen Ireland directly - they're located in Airside Retail Park, Swords, Co. Dublin and explain your situation.
Do let us know how you get on.
What small car would suit my 20,000km annual mileage?
Hi, I am looking to move out from a town, which would mean commuting of about 15,000 to 20,000km per year. Should I be looking for small diesel or petrol in order to keep costs as low as possible? Ideally about 1.4 or 1.6 engine size...
Thanks
John Stalmach (Dublin)Jan 2014 Filed under: choosing used car
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Hi John,
Yup, a small diesel sounds like it should be ideal for you. Depending on what kind or size of car you need I'd recommend either a MINI Cooper D 1.6 (small and sporty), Opel Astra 1.3 CDTi (slower, but more spacious), Toyota Auris 1.4 D-4D (similar to Opel but probably more reliable) or that old favourite the Volkswagen Golf 1.6 TDI BlueMotion (ultra economical). Or, if you need more space how about a Skoda Octavia Combi estate 1.6 TDI or a Citroen C4 Picasso 1.6 HDi?
Help us with your needs and we'll narrow that down a little!
What car will take three children in the back?
Hi, I'm looking to buy a new family car that will take three seats in the back easily. Not looking for a seven seater or so, just something that will take all three kids in the back in comfort - both theirs and also easy to get the seats in - ages 4 1/2, 3 and newborn.
Peter F (Dublin)Jan 2014 Filed under: child or baby seats
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Hi Peter,
OK, you've a couple of good options here. There are five-seat versions of the Citroen C4 Picasso and Renault Scenic that are slightly less bulky than the seven-seat models and which will easily take three car seats across the back. Or you could try one of our very favourite cars of all, the Skoda Yeti, which has just about enough width to fit all three seats in the back. My best advice is to make sure you bring the kids and seats on any test drives you might be doing and make sure that all three fit and that the bigger ones can happily clamber up into their perches.
Let us know how you get on.
Can you help us choose a large seven-seat family car?
Hello! We have a Peugeot 307 SW 1.6 petrol. We are due our fourth baby in the spring and are researching to find a full seven-seater (which could comfortably fit seven adults) preferably with low road tax. We think the full seven-seater is better from a safety point of view and aren't concerned about how this affects boot space. The newer models with low road tax are quite a bit more expensive but I assume are cheaper in the long run! What would you recommend? Value for money and safety essential!.
Feena Farrell (Kilcock)Nov 2013 Filed under: choosing used car
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Hi Feena,
If you need actual space for seven full-sized adults (as opposed to jump seats for occasional use by small kids) then pretty much all of the medium-sized SUVs, such as the Opel Zafira, Peugeot 5008, Citroen C4 Picasso and Ford C-Max are out of the question. They're simply not big enough. You'll need, therefore, to trade up to a proper, full-size SUV and in that category there's simply nothing better than a Ford Galaxy. There's real space in the third row even for big people and while the 2.0-litre 140hp diesel engine is a bit juicy on tax (Band C) it's pretty good on overall fuel economy .
They're robustly made too, and while the Galaxy isn't on Ford's official Irish price list any more, a quick ring around the dealer network should easily turn up either a dealer demo model or a very young used car.
Let us know how you get on
