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We want to move back to an MPV, but which one?!

For years my husband drove Renault Mégane Scenics, and then about six months ago he took a whim and got a Mitsubishi ASX (not the 4WD model). It was a 2013 demo. The good price, the long warranty and the fact that it was diesel all enticed him. It is much cheaper to run and a nice drive, but the interface (is that the word?) is crude compared to the Renault. No 'intelligent' wipers, lights or windows; and the sound system controls are not on the wheel. Plus, the storage space is poor, and the boot is smaller, etc. etc. The main problem, though, is the appearance of the thing. After years of avoiding SUVs, he has somehow acquired a machine that looks like - oops! - an SUV.

We won't dwell on the reasons for not wanting to drive an SUV, or how he managed to actually buy something that looks like the one thing he doesn't want to drive. But, let's just say that he is unhappy enough that he really wants to change it for a (preferably) 2013 or 2014 (demo model) of something less 'assertive'-looking. If we have to pay to change, we will, although obviously we'd prefer not to. We are looking at another Renault Scenic, but are wondering if there might be another MPV-type car that you'd recommend in the same price bracket?

Our requirements are diesel, five doors, a large boot (for work equipment and for dogs), and preferably a highish car (not an ordinary estate).

Thank you!

Desperate in Dublin

J P (Dublin)

Mar 2014 Filed under: choosing used car

Expert answer

Hi Jane,

Sounds like you want to move back into a proper MPV and the best one around at the moment, for my money, is the Citroen C4 Picasso. Citroen registered a bundle of them last year for press and promotional purposes so there should be plenty of good nearly-new or dealer demo stock knocking around. It's a classy looking thing, comfy to drive and utterly massive on the inside. Other good options are the Ford C-Max (great to drive but the boot is slightly on the small side) and the Toyota Verso (a touch unexciting but with terrific quality and lots of space). Or, of you want something with a warranty to match the Mitsubishi's, track down a nice 2013 Kia Carens - a classy looking car with bundles of space.

Let us know how you get on


What would be the best second hand SUV to go for?

What would be the best second hand SUV to go for?

Ash Crossan (Portlaoise)

Mar 2014 Filed under: choosing used car

Expert answer

Hi Ash,

It very much depends on your price bracket and what your requirements are in terms of size. If you want something small, cheap and fun to drive, why not try either a Nissan Juke or MINI Countryman? Need something with a bit more space and practicality? Nissan Qashqai then, or better yet, a Skoda Yeti. Want to get something with a lot more size and some proper 4x4 ability? Go for a Honda CR-V, a Hyundai Santa Fe (you can get those with seven seats by the way) or, a Nissan again, this time the under-appreciated X-Trail. Want something seriously big and impressive? Well, a Range Rover Sport is always a good buy but be sure to put aside plenty to cover the running costs. A Toyota Land Cruiser is rather less exciting to drive or to look at but its reliability is little short of legendary. Or, if you want something really cheap and old that can pack some abuse and come back for more, try either a Suzuki Grand Vitara (smallish) or a Mitsubishi Pajero (big). Both are reliable, both can off-road properly and both can be tracked down at bargain prices, as long as you buy according to condition, not age or mileage.

Come back to us if you need more help


Is the 1.8-litre diesel engine Mitsubishi's own?

Who manufactures the 1.8-litre diesel engine in Mitsubishi's Lancer and ASX?

Fiona Horsman (Portumna)

Feb 2014 Filed under: diesel

Expert answer

Hi Fiona,

Though Mitsubishi has in the past used a Volkswagen Group TDI engine, this 1.8-litre unit is its own in-house creation.


Mercedes M-Class or Mitsubishi Pajero in terms of fuel economy?

What would be the difference in fuel consumption between a Mercedes-Benz ML 280 CDI and a Mitsubishi Pajero, all things been equal?

Thanks

Noel Lingwood (Cork Ireland)

Feb 2014 Filed under: fuel economy and emissions

Expert answer

Hi Noel,

All things being equal, it'll be the Merc that'll do better. I'm comparing the 2011 model years for both as I'm assuming you mean the previous generation of Mercedes-Benz ML-Class. 

According to the official figures, the ML 280 CDI automatic gets 30.1mpg on the combined cycle, while the Mitsubishi Pajero 3.2 DID automatic returns 26.6mpg. 

Hardly surprising really: the Mitsubishi has a five-speed gearbox compared to the Merc's six-speed unit, plus it's lugging around a heavier body and seven seats (the Merc's a strict five-seater).

Hope that helps.


Compare the Suzuki Jimny and Mitsubishi Pajero Pinin.

What is the Mitsubishi Pajero Junior like and what are common problems, if any? How would you rate it against the Suzuki Jimny

Regards

Konrad

Konrad Trankner (Gorey)

Feb 2014 Filed under: choosing used car

Expert answer

Hi Konrad,

The Pajero Pinin wasn't one of Mitsubishi's more reliable efforts, sad to say. Even on relatively recent models, rust can be an issue and if it's been used as a tow car, then wheel bearings and gearboxes can suffer premature wear and tear. It's also surprisingly crude compared to some rivals, with lots of road noise and a bouncy ride. That said, it's a more sophisticated choice than a Suzuki Jimny. The Jimny is reliable and terrific off-road, but it's just too crude and noisy on tarmac to consider as an everyday car - unlike the Pinin.


Should I stay away from the Espace and this older Discovery?

I need a second hand seven seater. Have seen a 2005 Renault Grand Espace automatic petrol, 95k miles, leather priced at €3,850. Fallen in love with a 2004 Land Rover Discovery 2.5-litre, auto, diesel, leather, 150k miles too. Price €5,250. Would I be crazy to go for Land Rover? Difference in tax isn't too big. Two trustworthy mechanics told me Renault give expensive problems but didn't ask about Land Rover!

Susan Ryan (Dublin IRL)

Feb 2014 Filed under: reliability

Expert answer

Hi Susan,

Wow, you're a glutton for punishment aren't you? You pretty much couldn't have picked two less reliable cars. The Discovery is best avoided. If you could afford to trade up to a third-generation model I'd say that's worth a go, as Land Rover was starting to get on top of its quality issues by then, but the old Series II is just bad news. Gearboxes go, electrics go and even the suspension can fail. I know what you mean about falling in love - it's happened to me too with old Land Rovers, but you're looking at a very high-maintenance partner there.

The Espace is a little better, but not by much. The diesel engines are very fragile - check for smoke, check for oil levels and if there are any signs of overheating, run don't walk away. Check anything with an electrical wire coming out the back of it too as it can all go wrong, although the electronic parking brake and electric windows are especially prone to wrongness. Also, keep an eye on the tyres. Espaces go through them like butter and 20,000km is about as much as you'll get out of a set.

If you really want a seven-seater that works properly, can I suggest either a Mitsubishi Pajero or Toyota Land Cruiser? Not as cool as the Discovery, but they won't let you down.


How much is the tax on the new Outlander?

Hi, can you tell me how much it would be to tax a Mitsubishi Outlander 4x4 automatic?

Thank you

Helen Bell (Narraghmore)

Jan 2014 Filed under: taxation

Expert answer

Hi Helen,

The automatic version of the all-wheel drive Outlander has higher emissions than the manual one so it costs more to tax - €390 versus €280 per year.

Hope that helps


Does Mitsubishi now sell a seven-seat car?

Hi, can you please tell me if there is a seven-seater Mitsubishi available to replace the Grandis?

Helen Crowley (Cork)

Sep 2013 Filed under:

Expert answer

Hi Helen,

While there is no direct replacement for the Grandis, the Mitsubishi Outlander comes as a seven seater, with the choice of manual or automatic gearboxes. It's also got selectable four-wheel drive. From a pricing perspective, the Outlander seven-seat manual is in the same price bracket as the old Grandis.

Here's our recent road test of the Outlander for your information


Which seven-seat crossover to go for?

Looking for a seven-seaters. Crossovers, maybe? Not Ford S-Max or Galaxy or MPVs. More Hyundai Sante Fe, Nissan Qashqai+2, Mitsubishi Outlander, etc. Any recommendations? Shame the 2008 crossover is compact and not seven seats like I need.

Roy Ferris (Killorglin)

Jul 2013 Filed under: choosing new car

Expert answer

Hi Roy,

Have you considered the new Peugeot 5008? It’s basically a bigger version of the 3008, comes with seven seats as standard and prices start from €28k. Get one with the brilliant little 1.2 turbo petrol engine and you won’t go wrong. Read our review of that car here.


What can I expect to get my my Mitsubishi?

I have my car for sale here: http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/mitsubishi-lancer/5392819 Realistically, what should I expect to get for it?

Thanks.

Ciaran Mc Cashin (Drogheda)

Jul 2013 Filed under: used car values

Expert answer

Hi Ciaran,

With a following wind, you might get €2,500 for your Mitsubishi, but that figure will drop significantly if you use it as a trade-in.


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